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They’ve banned Teslas from government compounds and big state-owned companies for a few years. There are even occasional reports of Tesla cars being diverted fr
by meyum33 3y ago
They’ve banned Teslas from government compounds and big state-owned companies for a few years. There are even occasional reports of Tesla cars being diverted from certain roads for reasons the police wouldn’t disclose.
Edit: It could be retaliations against US sanctions. But there’s a difference: All these kinds of orders are made without any written documents. These are just part of the general decline of the rule of law in China, which there weren’t much to begin with.
- toomuchtodo 3y agoTesla concern is autopilot cameras shipping images back to Tesla, which is valid; Tesla does ship stills back for training if enabled in the data sharing configuration.
- l33t7332273 3y agoAlso Tesla is an absolute security nightmare.
- john_alan 3y agoGot any evidence?
- l33t7332273 3y agoEvery security lab I’ve ever been around was picking lots of low hanging fruit from the fertile tree of that infotainment system.
- fooker 3y agoDo you have any evidence for this?
- l33t7332273 3y agoI’ve reached the limit of my personal experiences that I will be sharing. But, if you don’t know anyone in the offensive security space and still want to get some general feelings, perhaps you can start by looking into things like “Tesla CAN bus security,” “Tesla infotainment security,” and “Tesla NFC fob security.” Plus, here’s a heuristic for why they would have horrible security: they a are poorly built product which focuses more on flash than substance made by a company with an owner that is known to cut corners, and security is absolutely not one of the key selling points of this(or any other) car.
- fooker 3y ago"I wish you would use your expertise to share some knowledge instead of just shutting down the conversation."
- l33t7332273 3y agoI don’t think being unwilling to violate my agreements is shutting down the conversation at all. I explicitly gave search terms you can use to gain some feelings about the subject and included a heuristic. Frankly, I find your backhanded comment (that you dug into my comment history to find) obnoxious.
- morkalork 3y agoCould the US government slip Tesla one of those nifty national security letters and get themselves a closet off some server room at Tesla HQ? It's not like they'd be spying on US citizens in China.
- kalupa 3y agois anyone saying that doesn't already exist?
- plagiarist 3y agoWhy would they need a closet? Tesla probably gives them regular torrent links
- tyrfing 3y agoSure, but data on Chinese users isn't allowed to leave China, so that Tesla HQ closet won't be very useful in this case.
- bboygravity 3y agoIn the same way that Microsoft's EU data isn't somehow ending up at the NSA in the US, lol? There's no way that the Chinese gov actually believes that Chinese Tesla data stays in China.
- tyrfing 3y agoYour assumption is that breaking data protection laws in the West has anywhere near the same sort of consequences as in China. The Chinese government doesn't have to believe or assume anything, and even Elon Musk avoids anything but praise for China.
- dheera 3y agoWhat about humans with prosthetic silicon eyes? We'll have more of those going into the future. They'll be able to export video and images as well.
- FpUser 3y ago>"But there’s a difference: All these kinds of orders are made without any written documents." And you know this how? Maybe the document do exist but are classified. As for rule of law - try civil forfeiture for example. It is but a pure theft that goes unpunished.