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Similar things have been said about the rise of FSP games. I’ve heard the military basically created FPS games for their combat simulators. They also pushed or

by wil421 3y ago

Similar things have been said about the rise of FSP games. I’ve heard the military basically created FPS games for their combat simulators. They also pushed or gave money to developers to popularize FPS games. FPS=first person shooter.

giobox 3y ago
I've never heard this argument ever for FPS games - the history of the FPS is extremely well documented. The earliest FPS games are frankly far too basic to be of much use for military training.
- fidotron 3y ago
  Indeed, the market demand for Doom was basically pre existing. There was a sort of assumption this was what people wanted and what was preventing it to that point was the technology. I am not sure you see too many situations like that. Spotting them in advance is much harder than hindsight.
- mcpackieh 3y ago
  > "The earliest FPS games are frankly far too basic to be of much use for military training." That didn't stop them from trying to use Doom to train "military thinking" and "exercise and develop their decision making abilities": https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2019/11/06/the-corps-authorized-marines-to-play-a-special-version-of-doom-in-the-late-90s-to-help-train-for-combat/ https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2019... Related: Human silhouette targets at firing ranges, low fidelity as they are, were developed to reduce inhibitions against shooting people. They are used by police and military for this purpose and probably work.
ndriscoll 3y ago
That doesn't sound true, but they did make one of the best shooters (America's Army) and released it for free as an advertisement basically.
- ryandrake 3y ago
  It was really amazing how good America's Army was. When I got it, I was expecting a cheesy propaganda piece cobbled together to barely work, but it was actually a great and very fun shooter.
c420 3y ago
It's almost the plot to The Last Starfighter...

by wil421 3y ago

giobox 3y ago

I've never heard this argument ever for FPS games - the history of the FPS is extremely well documented. The earliest FPS games are frankly far too basic to be of much use for military training.

fidotron 3y ago
Indeed, the market demand for Doom was basically pre existing. There was a sort of assumption this was what people wanted and what was preventing it to that point was the technology. I am not sure you see too many situations like that. Spotting them in advance is much harder than hindsight.
mcpackieh 3y ago
> "The earliest FPS games are frankly far too basic to be of much use for military training." That didn't stop them from trying to use Doom to train "military thinking" and "exercise and develop their decision making abilities": https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2019/11/06/the-corps-authorized-marines-to-play-a-special-version-of-doom-in-the-late-90s-to-help-train-for-combat/ https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2019... Related: Human silhouette targets at firing ranges, low fidelity as they are, were developed to reduce inhibitions against shooting people. They are used by police and military for this purpose and probably work.

ndriscoll 3y ago

That doesn't sound true, but they did make one of the best shooters (America's Army) and released it for free as an advertisement basically.

ryandrake 3y ago
It was really amazing how good America's Army was. When I got it, I was expecting a cheesy propaganda piece cobbled together to barely work, but it was actually a great and very fun shooter.

c420 3y ago

It's almost the plot to The Last Starfighter...