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Under “what this study adds”: > Dietary risk factors (diet high in red meat, low in fruits, high in sodium and low in milk, etc), alcohol consumption and tobac

Under “what this study adds”: > Dietary risk factors (diet high in red meat, low in fruits, high in sodium and low in milk, etc), alcohol consumption and tobacco use are the main risk factors underlying early-onset cancers.

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reedf1 3y ago
I'm very surprised to see milk negatively correlated with cancer risk - I usually see people calling milk unhealthy. Do we know exactly what the benefits are?
- simmerup 3y ago
  Milk has minerals like potassium and a low glycemic index as lactose takes a while to digest. That could help.
- raverbashing 3y ago
  > I usually see people calling milk unhealthy Usually with zero actual supporting data
- consilient 3y ago
  Somethings are simply bad for you, without qualification, but for the most part it only makes sense to use "healthy" or "unhealthy" to describe a diet, not individual foods. Milk has lots of protein, minerals, and fat. Whether that's good or bad depends on how much of those you're getting from other sources.
- Qem 3y ago
  I suspect the plant-based "milk" makers are investing a lot of marketing resources in smearing the reputation of milk as unhealthy, just like the margarine makers did before to promote the replacement of butter with cheaper hydrogenated vegetable oils.
odyssey7 3y ago
Are they saying milk deficiency causes cancer?
dham 3y ago
Low in fruits: What kind of fruits? Not all fruits are created equal and it's important how we consume them. Drinking fruits in smoothies doesn't mean you're healthy. Eating Blackberries, Rasberries, Strawberries, Avocados, yea. Eating grapes, raisins, apples, no Diet high in red meat: Nope. Only if your diet is also high in carbs (the American diet). Eating a grass fed steak with some broccoli and walnuts on the side. Ok. Eating a steak with baked potato and chocolate brownie for dessert, na. High in sodium: Nope. Only if your diet is also high in carbs Low in milk: Lol Alcohol consumption: Yes Tobacco use: Yes
- rafaelero 3y ago
  > Diet high in red meat: Nope. Only if your diet is also high in carbs (the American diet). Eating a grass fed steak with some broccoli and walnuts on the side. Ok. Eating a steak with baked potato and chocolate brownie for dessert, na. Cope. Of course adding broccoli and walnuts will make it healthier. Now substitute meat for beans and it will be even healthier.
  - dham 3y ago
    Meat isn't bad, meat with carbs is bad.
    - flerchin 3y ago
      This is the first I've heard of this claim, but you seem adamant that this is proven. Would you mind sharing some evidence?
    - rafaelero 3y ago
      Meat is packed with saturated fat, which is causally linked to bad cholesterol. Are there worse foods? Yes. Are there healthier foods? For sure.
- dehrmann 3y ago
  > Eating...apples, no Apple juice, sure, but whole apples? You're gonna need to back that claim up with some pretty strong evidence.

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reedf1 3y ago

I'm very surprised to see milk negatively correlated with cancer risk - I usually see people calling milk unhealthy. Do we know exactly what the benefits are?

simmerup 3y ago
Milk has minerals like potassium and a low glycemic index as lactose takes a while to digest. That could help.
raverbashing 3y ago
> I usually see people calling milk unhealthy Usually with zero actual supporting data
consilient 3y ago
Somethings are simply bad for you, without qualification, but for the most part it only makes sense to use "healthy" or "unhealthy" to describe a diet, not individual foods. Milk has lots of protein, minerals, and fat. Whether that's good or bad depends on how much of those you're getting from other sources.
Qem 3y ago
I suspect the plant-based "milk" makers are investing a lot of marketing resources in smearing the reputation of milk as unhealthy, just like the margarine makers did before to promote the replacement of butter with cheaper hydrogenated vegetable oils.

odyssey7 3y ago

Are they saying milk deficiency causes cancer?

dham 3y ago

Low in fruits: What kind of fruits? Not all fruits are created equal and it's important how we consume them. Drinking fruits in smoothies doesn't mean you're healthy. Eating Blackberries, Rasberries, Strawberries, Avocados, yea. Eating grapes, raisins, apples, no Diet high in red meat: Nope. Only if your diet is also high in carbs (the American diet). Eating a grass fed steak with some broccoli and walnuts on the side. Ok. Eating a steak with baked potato and chocolate brownie for dessert, na. High in sodium: Nope. Only if your diet is also high in carbs Low in milk: Lol Alcohol consumption: Yes Tobacco use: Yes

rafaelero 3y ago
> Diet high in red meat: Nope. Only if your diet is also high in carbs (the American diet). Eating a grass fed steak with some broccoli and walnuts on the side. Ok. Eating a steak with baked potato and chocolate brownie for dessert, na. Cope. Of course adding broccoli and walnuts will make it healthier. Now substitute meat for beans and it will be even healthier.
- dham 3y ago
  Meat isn't bad, meat with carbs is bad.
  - flerchin 3y ago
    This is the first I've heard of this claim, but you seem adamant that this is proven. Would you mind sharing some evidence?
  - rafaelero 3y ago
    Meat is packed with saturated fat, which is causally linked to bad cholesterol. Are there worse foods? Yes. Are there healthier foods? For sure.
dehrmann 3y ago
> Eating...apples, no Apple juice, sure, but whole apples? You're gonna need to back that claim up with some pretty strong evidence.