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Maybe they should force Apple to open their phone APIs as well. Why should they be the only one that can develop phone usage apps? (preventing people to build d

Maybe they should force Apple to open their phone APIs as well. Why should they be the only one that can develop phone usage apps? (preventing people to build decent anti-phone addiction apps... I see why Apple does it... but how's that good for drug addicts, cof, consumers?) There are so many things wrong with those companies, in terms of non-competitive practices, that I find that the EU or any regulator have trouble figuring out where to start. I believe that's why things are in that bad situation. People mention that you(developer/company), shouldn't be hostage of any platform and develop ideas that aren't so dependent on them. Which is true, as it isn't worth the risk, or not be entirely dependant on it. Which in business terms, makes sense. But from a regulatory standpoint, why is it acceptable? Imagine if any developer or small company could compete on a fair ground against thos e big tech companies, I bet none of them would be >$1T market cap. It's funny how things are uncompetitive for silly things like weather apps, imagine how it is to compete on a really wide and profitable category. And don't come to me saying regulations are bad to consumers, how's having a monopoly even on weather apps good to consumers? I really fail to see the mental gymnastics americans do to explain why those regulation initiatives from the EU are bad, much less when it comes from a big tech employee. The amount of rugpulls that those platforms have done on the last decade on small players is impossible to count, and they've been mostly left unscathed. This is all a side-effect of companies being able to shove a Terms of Service(ToS) down the throat of everyone, I think platforms need to be heavily regulated. If you build something on top of some other "private property" that would take trillions to build a competitor yourself, and suddenly be unpublished or having an API change completely destroy your business. I can't see that being fair, and this condition is pretty much analogous to slavery and thievery, as many times you are doing actually R&D for those companies, to get rugpulled, copied and increasing their trillions, making their advantage even more unfair.

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bzzzt 3y ago
> how's having a monopoly even on weather apps good to consumers? Having to pay for development and maintenance for 50 competing weather apps could mean higher prices for everybody. Also, third party apps have a tendency to 'blow up' their importance and be over engineered and distracting. Get ready for Electron Weather, using 2 Gb of memory just to show you if it rains. > If you build something on top of some other "private property" that would take trillions to build a competitor yourself, and suddenly be unpublished or having an API change completely destroy your business. Depends on what that API change tries to accomplish. If it's because an API is abused I prefer my security to your business model. Making companies liable for security _and_ API compatibility could lead to an impossible task. I agree some companies are uncomfortably big, but I see lots of developers having problems with Apple's policies, but as a user I appreciate Apple for taking a stand to make sure your 'right' to get my attention, clicks, ads or use other distracting patterns doesn't impede my ability to actually use my computer.
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- thiago_fm 3y ago
  "but as a user I appreciate Apple for taking a stand to make sure your 'right' to get my attention" I'll just let you read your own comment, and reflect whether they do this out of self-interest (as Apple claims their right to decide on what your attention should be focused on) ... or is it because they are a very innocent company with positive intent. If you are still unsure, after reflecting on that, please search for old Steve Jobs emails leaked and you'll know what are their true intentions (maximizing shareholder value, their revenues AKA not your attention. I invest in Apple, but I don't drink the kool-aid).
lemper 3y ago
go run for the office / senate, mate. imma support you. too bad, i ain't eu citizen.
- thiago_fm 3y ago
  I'd like to, but I'm still a immigrant here :D I don't really believe I have the power to change those things, but in a way, I like how EU thinks more about this than the US.
Gareth321 3y ago
> Maybe they should force Apple to open their phone APIs as well. Why should they be the only one that can develop phone usage apps? They will have to open some, such as those required for third party browser engines, voice assistants, app stores, and SMS.
yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
> Why should they be the only one that can develop phone usage apps? (preventing people to build decent anti-phone addiction apps... I see why Apple does it... but how's that good for drug addicts, cof, consumers?) Because Facebook having access to that API is a nightmare scenario. Granted, if the user has full control over it - something the OS should be able to do - then I agree with you.

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bzzzt 3y ago

> how's having a monopoly even on weather apps good to consumers? Having to pay for development and maintenance for 50 competing weather apps could mean higher prices for everybody. Also, third party apps have a tendency to 'blow up' their importance and be over engineered and distracting. Get ready for Electron Weather, using 2 Gb of memory just to show you if it rains. > If you build something on top of some other "private property" that would take trillions to build a competitor yourself, and suddenly be unpublished or having an API change completely destroy your business. Depends on what that API change tries to accomplish. If it's because an API is abused I prefer my security to your business model. Making companies liable for security _and_ API compatibility could lead to an impossible task. I agree some companies are uncomfortably big, but I see lots of developers having problems with Apple's policies, but as a user I appreciate Apple for taking a stand to make sure your 'right' to get my attention, clicks, ads or use other distracting patterns doesn't impede my ability to actually use my computer.

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thiago_fm 3y ago
"but as a user I appreciate Apple for taking a stand to make sure your 'right' to get my attention" I'll just let you read your own comment, and reflect whether they do this out of self-interest (as Apple claims their right to decide on what your attention should be focused on) ... or is it because they are a very innocent company with positive intent. If you are still unsure, after reflecting on that, please search for old Steve Jobs emails leaked and you'll know what are their true intentions (maximizing shareholder value, their revenues AKA not your attention. I invest in Apple, but I don't drink the kool-aid).

lemper 3y ago

go run for the office / senate, mate. imma support you. too bad, i ain't eu citizen.

thiago_fm 3y ago
I'd like to, but I'm still a immigrant here :D I don't really believe I have the power to change those things, but in a way, I like how EU thinks more about this than the US.

Gareth321 3y ago

> Maybe they should force Apple to open their phone APIs as well. Why should they be the only one that can develop phone usage apps? They will have to open some, such as those required for third party browser engines, voice assistants, app stores, and SMS.

yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago

> Why should they be the only one that can develop phone usage apps? (preventing people to build decent anti-phone addiction apps... I see why Apple does it... but how's that good for drug addicts, cof, consumers?) Because Facebook having access to that API is a nightmare scenario. Granted, if the user has full control over it - something the OS should be able to do - then I agree with you.