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by jiofj 3y ago

SketchySeaBeast 3y ago
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/27/world/july-hottest-month-record-climate/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/27/world/july-hottest-month-reco... There is a decent amount of confidence that it's an outlier in the last 120,000 years, but you're right, there are no written records that far back. Regardless, do you find it reassuring to know that the world is rapidly changing in a way that's proving to be predictable? We can easily look at that chart and guess what it's going to look like over the next 10 years.
- zacharytelschow 3y ago
  > We can easily look at that chart and guess what it's going to look like over the next 10 years. That's why all the past predictions have been so accurate, right? "But we know more now." We do not. Some intellectual humility by those wanting tyranical control over our lives would be fantastic.
  - anigbrowl 3y ago
    tyranical control over our lives Stop drinking out of poisoned wells.
  - mrguyorama 3y ago
    You mean the 1970s internal exxon graph that tracks very well with reality?
  - conception 3y ago
    https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-how-well-have-climate-models-projected-global-warming/ https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-how-well-have-climate-m... Past predictions generally have been under estimating what’s actually happening.
- edgyquant 3y ago
  There is not a “decent amount of confidence” and your CNN link provides no proof that there’s any at all outside of a sentence claiming tree rings and coral mean it may be. There is so much disinformation (from both sides) and fear mongering about this subject that anything not a direct and peer reviewed source should not be taken as any kind of proof of anything.
  - SketchySeaBeast 3y ago
    To portray this as a "both sides" problem is to wildly misunderstand the scientific discourse, or mistake it for the political one.
    - mrguyorama 3y ago
      The american right desperately want this to be a political fight so they can continue to ignore and profit from it for another few decades while they all die off and not have to worry about the consequences
      - edgyquant 3y ago
        Nice projection, you’re just spitting word for word political nonsense which is unrelated to a single thing I said. CNN saying that there is proof this is the hottest day in 120,000 years isn’t scientific and linking to them doing so isn’t an act of engaging in science. I think maybe it’s you who has gotten so caught up in a political fight you’re convinced you aren’t taking part it one.
    - edgyquant 3y ago
      I just said that a vague CNN article isn’t scientific proof of anything. Who’s mixing up science and politics again?
leke 3y ago
Check out ice cores.
1970-01-01 3y ago
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoclimatology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoclimatology) didn't

(records began 80 years ago)

by jiofj 3y ago

(records began 80 years ago)

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/27/world/july-hottest-month-record-climate/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/27/world/july-hottest-month-reco... There is a decent amount of confidence that it's an outlier in the last 120,000 years, but you're right, there are no written records that far back. Regardless, do you find it reassuring to know that the world is rapidly changing in a way that's proving to be predictable? We can easily look at that chart and guess what it's going to look like over the next 10 years.

zacharytelschow 3y ago
> We can easily look at that chart and guess what it's going to look like over the next 10 years. That's why all the past predictions have been so accurate, right? "But we know more now." We do not. Some intellectual humility by those wanting tyranical control over our lives would be fantastic.
- anigbrowl 3y ago
  tyranical control over our lives Stop drinking out of poisoned wells.
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  You mean the 1970s internal exxon graph that tracks very well with reality?
- conception 3y ago
  https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-how-well-have-climate-models-projected-global-warming/ https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-how-well-have-climate-m... Past predictions generally have been under estimating what’s actually happening.
edgyquant 3y ago
There is not a “decent amount of confidence” and your CNN link provides no proof that there’s any at all outside of a sentence claiming tree rings and coral mean it may be. There is so much disinformation (from both sides) and fear mongering about this subject that anything not a direct and peer reviewed source should not be taken as any kind of proof of anything.
- SketchySeaBeast 3y ago
  To portray this as a "both sides" problem is to wildly misunderstand the scientific discourse, or mistake it for the political one.
  - mrguyorama 3y ago
    The american right desperately want this to be a political fight so they can continue to ignore and profit from it for another few decades while they all die off and not have to worry about the consequences
    - edgyquant 3y ago
      Nice projection, you’re just spitting word for word political nonsense which is unrelated to a single thing I said. CNN saying that there is proof this is the hottest day in 120,000 years isn’t scientific and linking to them doing so isn’t an act of engaging in science. I think maybe it’s you who has gotten so caught up in a political fight you’re convinced you aren’t taking part it one.
  - edgyquant 3y ago
    I just said that a vague CNN article isn’t scientific proof of anything. Who’s mixing up science and politics again?

leke 3y ago

Check out ice cores.

1970-01-01 3y ago

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoclimatology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoclimatology) didn't