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Yes, looking forward to it! This is the only thing that's prevented me from switching from Android to iOS.

mrtksn 3y ago
The word on the street is that Apple will do it only in EU and will be serious about enforcing it. According to the rumours, Apple will check against location and verified EU iCloud account before allowing side loading.
- sebazzz 3y ago
  You can use an Apple device without iCloud right? How would that work? They do know in which region the device was sold though.
  - mrtksn 3y ago
    You can use Macs without iCloud, not iDevices. On Macs you can already install whatever you like.
    - lapcat 3y ago
      sebazzz was correct, and you are incorrect. You don't need to sign in to iCloud on an iOS device. My iPhone does not use iCloud.
      - mrtksn 3y ago
        It appears so. TIL.
  - JimDabell 3y ago
    I assume they have mistaken “iCloud account” for “Apple ID with associated payment method”. In order to use the App Store, you need payment details with a billing address. Apple uses this billing address to decide which region your Apple ID is in for the purposes of licensing, region locking, etc. If they were going to distinguish between EU and non-EU accounts, they would use this. Also, in order to change regions, not only do you need to add a new payment method with a verified payment address in the new region, you also need to cancel all in-app subscriptions and then resubscribe after you have changed region. Assuming the app and subscription is available in the new region, of course. I’m skeptical they’ll do this though. Allowing side loading is a sufficiently large change in strategy that it doesn’t really make much difference to Apple if they allow the EU to do it vs the whole world.
- basisword 3y ago
  >> Apple will check against location and verified EU iCloud account before allowing side loading. I doubt this would be compliant. For example, Northern Irish users will be using a UK iCloud account due to their address of residence. However they are/can be EU citizens despite the UK no longer being within the EU. Unless DMA applies to residents rather than citizens of course.
  - SSLy 3y ago
    This is a market, not immigration/border-security law. So might not apply in the occupied parts of Ireland.

The word on the street is that Apple will do it only in EU and will be serious about enforcing it. According to the rumours, Apple will check against location and verified EU iCloud account before allowing side loading.

sebazzz 3y ago
You can use an Apple device without iCloud right? How would that work? They do know in which region the device was sold though.
- mrtksn 3y ago
  You can use Macs without iCloud, not iDevices. On Macs you can already install whatever you like.
  - lapcat 3y ago
    sebazzz was correct, and you are incorrect. You don't need to sign in to iCloud on an iOS device. My iPhone does not use iCloud.
    - mrtksn 3y ago
      It appears so. TIL.
- JimDabell 3y ago
  I assume they have mistaken “iCloud account” for “Apple ID with associated payment method”. In order to use the App Store, you need payment details with a billing address. Apple uses this billing address to decide which region your Apple ID is in for the purposes of licensing, region locking, etc. If they were going to distinguish between EU and non-EU accounts, they would use this. Also, in order to change regions, not only do you need to add a new payment method with a verified payment address in the new region, you also need to cancel all in-app subscriptions and then resubscribe after you have changed region. Assuming the app and subscription is available in the new region, of course. I’m skeptical they’ll do this though. Allowing side loading is a sufficiently large change in strategy that it doesn’t really make much difference to Apple if they allow the EU to do it vs the whole world.
basisword 3y ago
>> Apple will check against location and verified EU iCloud account before allowing side loading. I doubt this would be compliant. For example, Northern Irish users will be using a UK iCloud account due to their address of residence. However they are/can be EU citizens despite the UK no longer being within the EU. Unless DMA applies to residents rather than citizens of course.
- SSLy 3y ago
  This is a market, not immigration/border-security law. So might not apply in the occupied parts of Ireland.