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What are you talking about? Can you provide one example of the US doing a buildup on the Russian or Chinese border that was even a quarter the size of the Russi

by clucas 3y ago

What are you talking about? Can you provide one example of the US doing a buildup on the Russian or Chinese border that was even a quarter the size of the Russian buildup ahead of their full-scale invasion?

93po 3y ago
At literally any given time, including right now, the US has a wide combination of aircraft carriers and submarines and other vessels in striking distance and with enough nuclear arms to flatten the entirety of China. It terms of destructive power it’s significantly higher than what Russia has built up
- clucas 3y ago
  I think this situation is different from hundreds of thousands of troops and thousands of pieces of armor and artillery being moved to the border over the course of a couple months.
justsomehnguy 3y ago
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1294271/us-troops-europe-country/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1294271/us-troops-europe... Germany 35k Italy 12k UK 10k ----------- Total 57k
- clucas 3y ago
  So... zero on the border with Russia or China.
  - justsomehnguy 3y ago
    Ah, yes, the technical correct, best kind of correct. Remind me, why the country an ocean away has it's troops in these countries? And while we are it, can you explain why the country with only two countries on it's borders (one is allied, the other one is clearly not hostile) has a standing Army (not navy, not air force) of 460k+ active personnel?
    - verdverm 3y ago
      > remind me... Because they asked, because WW2 & NATO, because of the USSR and now Russia. If they weren't there, what might Russia have tried before 2022? > And while we are it Because of the Russia, China, NK, Iran. Who's going to stop them from attacking their neighbors?
      - justsomehnguy 3y ago
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    - clucas 3y ago
      OP claimed it was reasonable to say "Russia won't invade" because he claimed the US does things similar to Russia's buildup, but it doesn't invade. I was saying that, whatever your thoughts about US military policy, its deployment patterns are not, in fact, anything like what Russia did in late 2021/early 2022. Pointing out that the US has troops in other countries, and a massive military in general, does not address the point.
      - justsomehnguy 3y ago
        > Pointing out that the US has troops in other countries, and a massive military in general, does not address the point. US doesn't have an army on the Russian border because it's at least an ocean away, so asking 'how many US forces at the Russian border' is naive at bedt and comparing apples to oranges at worst. You are clearly are separating US from NATO, which is technically correct but absolutely ignores how US sees the world.
        clucas 3y ago
        I think you should go back and re-read the post I initially replied to.

by clucas 3y ago

93po 3y ago

At literally any given time, including right now, the US has a wide combination of aircraft carriers and submarines and other vessels in striking distance and with enough nuclear arms to flatten the entirety of China. It terms of destructive power it’s significantly higher than what Russia has built up

clucas 3y ago
I think this situation is different from hundreds of thousands of troops and thousands of pieces of armor and artillery being moved to the border over the course of a couple months.

justsomehnguy 3y ago

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1294271/us-troops-europe-country/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1294271/us-troops-europe... Germany 35k Italy 12k UK 10k ----------- Total 57k

clucas 3y ago
So... zero on the border with Russia or China.
- justsomehnguy 3y ago
  Ah, yes, the technical correct, best kind of correct. Remind me, why the country an ocean away has it's troops in these countries? And while we are it, can you explain why the country with only two countries on it's borders (one is allied, the other one is clearly not hostile) has a standing Army (not navy, not air force) of 460k+ active personnel?
  - verdverm 3y ago
    > remind me... Because they asked, because WW2 & NATO, because of the USSR and now Russia. If they weren't there, what might Russia have tried before 2022? > And while we are it Because of the Russia, China, NK, Iran. Who's going to stop them from attacking their neighbors?
    - justsomehnguy 3y ago
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  - clucas 3y ago
    OP claimed it was reasonable to say "Russia won't invade" because he claimed the US does things similar to Russia's buildup, but it doesn't invade. I was saying that, whatever your thoughts about US military policy, its deployment patterns are not, in fact, anything like what Russia did in late 2021/early 2022. Pointing out that the US has troops in other countries, and a massive military in general, does not address the point.
    - justsomehnguy 3y ago
      > Pointing out that the US has troops in other countries, and a massive military in general, does not address the point. US doesn't have an army on the Russian border because it's at least an ocean away, so asking 'how many US forces at the Russian border' is naive at bedt and comparing apples to oranges at worst. You are clearly are separating US from NATO, which is technically correct but absolutely ignores how US sees the world.
      - clucas 3y ago
        I think you should go back and re-read the post I initially replied to.