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Why is that a joke? Factory equipment is ordered and has a lifetime of 20 years. Of course it has old systems. These are grownup industries. They have no time

Why is that a joke? Factory equipment is ordered and has a lifetime of 20 years. Of course it has old systems. These are grownup industries. They have no time for development hipster nonsense and extraction games for unwanted features to stave of unemployment in some glass-towers.

scandox 3y ago
You're shooting the translator.
BoxFour 3y ago
> They have no time for development hipster nonsense https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-xp-support-has-ended-47b944b8-f4d3-82f2-9acc-21c79ee6ef5e https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-xp-suppo... > extraction games for unwanted features https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/12/23204950/bmw-subscriptions-microtransactions-heated-seats-feature https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/12/23204950/bmw-subscription...
- delecti 3y ago
  > If you continue to use Windows XP now that support has ended, your computer will still work but it might become more vulnerable to security risks and viruses It only matters if the machine is online, and they often aren't.
  - BoxFour 3y ago
    > they often aren't. This was NOT my experience while working in the automotive industry.
    - mcny 3y ago
      > This was NOT my experience while working in the automotive industry. Exactly. The only people who can climb the corporate ladder are people who care about business "impact" more than anything else.
  - COM9 3y ago
    > It only matters if the machine is online, and they often aren't. No. Really, you shouldn't think that. It's really bad security practice. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet It is typically introduced to the target environment via an infected USB flash drive, thus crossing any air gap.
- dncornholio 3y ago
  Funny when you never touched a computer in 20 years and as soon as microsoft posts "Support ended" it suddenly is a problem, when in fact, nothing changed. Computer still send signals and recieves signals just fine.
  - BoxFour 3y ago
    > Computer still send signals and recieves signals just fine. Yes, this is in fact the problem which gets exploited and said exploits remain unfixed because it's EOLd.
  - justinclift 3y ago
    Mostly works fine until some internal limit is reached. For example, the Y2K bug at the turn of the century. Good thing that was mostly dealt with ok. :)
oneplane 3y ago
If that is so, factories should maybe not buy software that has a much shorter lifespan than their 20 years. In essence, they are the ones making the mistake, not the OS vendor. Heck, they should probably fork an existing OS and maintain it themselves if this lifetime requirement is such an important thing.

scandox 3y ago

You're shooting the translator.

BoxFour 3y ago

> They have no time for development hipster nonsense https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-xp-support-has-ended-47b944b8-f4d3-82f2-9acc-21c79ee6ef5e https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-xp-suppo... > extraction games for unwanted features https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/12/23204950/bmw-subscriptions-microtransactions-heated-seats-feature https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/12/23204950/bmw-subscription...

delecti 3y ago
> If you continue to use Windows XP now that support has ended, your computer will still work but it might become more vulnerable to security risks and viruses It only matters if the machine is online, and they often aren't.
- BoxFour 3y ago
  > they often aren't. This was NOT my experience while working in the automotive industry.
  - mcny 3y ago
    > This was NOT my experience while working in the automotive industry. Exactly. The only people who can climb the corporate ladder are people who care about business "impact" more than anything else.
- COM9 3y ago
  > It only matters if the machine is online, and they often aren't. No. Really, you shouldn't think that. It's really bad security practice. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet It is typically introduced to the target environment via an infected USB flash drive, thus crossing any air gap.
dncornholio 3y ago
Funny when you never touched a computer in 20 years and as soon as microsoft posts "Support ended" it suddenly is a problem, when in fact, nothing changed. Computer still send signals and recieves signals just fine.
- BoxFour 3y ago
  > Computer still send signals and recieves signals just fine. Yes, this is in fact the problem which gets exploited and said exploits remain unfixed because it's EOLd.
- justinclift 3y ago
  Mostly works fine until some internal limit is reached. For example, the Y2K bug at the turn of the century. Good thing that was mostly dealt with ok. :)

oneplane 3y ago

If that is so, factories should maybe not buy software that has a much shorter lifespan than their 20 years. In essence, they are the ones making the mistake, not the OS vendor. Heck, they should probably fork an existing OS and maintain it themselves if this lifetime requirement is such an important thing.