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Yeah, if US would care about free market, iMessage would be an issue. But in EU it doesn't really (yet) have such a big market share. Although I do hope they

by izacus 3y ago

Yeah, if US would care about free market, iMessage would be an issue. But in EU it doesn't really (yet) have such a big market share. Although I do hope they conclude that iMessage needs to be an interoperable service - basic human communication services shouldn't be constrainted to a single electronics device brand.

nottorp 3y ago
They did name FB Messenger and WhatsApp so it sounds correct for the EU.
kmlx 3y ago
it already is interoperable as you can receive and send plain old sms messages without an issue.
- N19PEDL2 3y ago
  You are just saying that it's interoperable as long as you use another service where it is not supported.
  - JimDabell 3y ago
    When I open iMessage and send a message to somebody using an Android phone, they receive it. When they reply, I see it in iMessage. When I react to something, the reaction is transliterated into text and sent via SMS. When I send an image, it is sent via MMS. It’s fair to say that there’s interoperability.
    - izacus 3y ago
      Yeah, that's not interoperability. The interoperable service here is SMS. You also conveniently leave out just how much Apple degrades experience in those cases.
      - JimDabell 3y ago
        It’s interoperability. I can send/receive messages to/from a completely different system. You might not like how they’ve implemented it, but it is interoperable.
        izacus 3y ago
        How about you read the definition the EC uses for interoperability and stop bsing here?
        JimDabell 3y ago
        I did. Why don’t you explain why you think what iMessage does is not sufficient according to their definition?
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        kmlx 3y ago
        > How about you read the definition the EC uses for interoperability much clearer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interoperability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interoperability > Interoperability is a characteristic of a product or system to work with other products or systems. yeah, that's supported across the world via SMS. what exactly is the problem here?
  - kmlx 3y ago
    what other service? you go to your messaging app that comes pre-installed on your phone and you send a text message. the other person, no matter the device, will receive it. looks interoperable to me.

by izacus 3y ago

nottorp 3y ago

They did name FB Messenger and WhatsApp so it sounds correct for the EU.

kmlx 3y ago

it already is interoperable as you can receive and send plain old sms messages without an issue.

N19PEDL2 3y ago
You are just saying that it's interoperable as long as you use another service where it is not supported.
- JimDabell 3y ago
  When I open iMessage and send a message to somebody using an Android phone, they receive it. When they reply, I see it in iMessage. When I react to something, the reaction is transliterated into text and sent via SMS. When I send an image, it is sent via MMS. It’s fair to say that there’s interoperability.
  - izacus 3y ago
    Yeah, that's not interoperability. The interoperable service here is SMS. You also conveniently leave out just how much Apple degrades experience in those cases.
    - JimDabell 3y ago
      It’s interoperability. I can send/receive messages to/from a completely different system. You might not like how they’ve implemented it, but it is interoperable.
      - izacus 3y ago
        How about you read the definition the EC uses for interoperability and stop bsing here?
        JimDabell 3y ago
        I did. Why don’t you explain why you think what iMessage does is not sufficient according to their definition?
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        kmlx 3y ago
        > How about you read the definition the EC uses for interoperability much clearer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interoperability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interoperability > Interoperability is a characteristic of a product or system to work with other products or systems. yeah, that's supported across the world via SMS. what exactly is the problem here?
- kmlx 3y ago
  what other service? you go to your messaging app that comes pre-installed on your phone and you send a text message. the other person, no matter the device, will receive it. looks interoperable to me.