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Oslo district court rules Meta is violating the right to privacy (Norwegian)

35 points by kbf 3y ago

stareatgoats 3y ago
google translate provides a reasonable translation: https://nrkbeta-no.translate.goog/2023/09/06/datatilsynet-vant-frem-i-oslo-tingrett-mot-meta/?_x_tr_sl=no&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://nrkbeta-no.translate.goog/2023/09/06/datatilsynet-va... Meta is ordered by a district court to pay Norwegian crowns 1 million (USD ~94.000) (edit: per day) for not offering an opt-in model regarding behaviorbased ads. Not sure if Meta is sufficiently intimidated by this to change its ways though.
- LoganDark 3y ago
  is that 94 USD or 94000 USD?
  - syntaxing 3y ago
    Not sure if you’re trolling but . and , are used reversed of us Americans in Europe.
    - LoganDark 3y ago
      ...I wasn't trolling.
    - AlchemistCamp 3y ago
      It doesn’t seem to be in the UK: https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/Manchester.html https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/Manchester.html or in Ireland: https://www.spiritmotorgroup.ie/premium/used-vehicles/ https://www.spiritmotorgroup.ie/premium/used-vehicles/ I’d say it’s language-based. In English, 10.000 means 10. In many other European languages, it means 10000. In some languages I speak, large numbers are separated with a comma every fourth numeral. In any case, it’s a good idea to follow the conventions of the language you’re using if your goal is to communicate with all of its speakers and not just a subgroup.
      - syntaxing 3y ago
        I’m sure there’s exceptions. Come on, are you really telling me if you saw the number 10.000 you would think $10? 10.00 or 10,00 fine. But 10.000?
        AlchemistCamp 3y ago
        I wouldn’t assume it’s currency if there weren’t a dollar sign, but yes. To me, 10.0, 10.00, 10.000 and 10.0000 all look the same and I wouldn’t hesitate to see them as 10. The only difference is that more zeroes implies more precision. 10,00 looks like a typo, either of 10,000 or of 10.00, but if I saw it surrounded by a bunch of German text, I’d know it meant 10.
        LoganDark 3y ago
        I couldn't tell if the extra zero was a typo or not. People say stuff like "$94.00" a lot
      - pezezin 3y ago
        That's why nowadays the recommended thousands separator is the blank space, to prevent this kind of confusion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator#Digit_grouping https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator#Digit_groupi... By the way, honest question: > In some languages I speak, large numbers are separated with a comma every fourth numeral. Which languages are those? I live in Japan, and whereas the spoken language separates numbers by myriads (as do most other languages in East Asia), numbers are usually written down with commas every 3 digits, which is really confusing...
        AlchemistCamp 3y ago
        According to some of my friends with kids there, Japanese public schools used to teach putting a comma every 3rd digit but for the past few years have been using a comma every 4th digit.
        pezezin 3y ago
  - 8organicbits 3y ago
    About $93000 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=1%2C000%2C000+nok+in+usd&t=fpas&ia=currency https://duckduckgo.com/?q=1%2C000%2C000+nok+in+usd&t=fpas&ia...
- linguistics__ 3y ago
  That's 1 million kroner per day, just fyi
  - stareatgoats 3y ago
    thanks for the catch - my doubts still stand though. Meta will likely drag this through the appeal processes for as long as it takes.
- paddim8 3y ago
  That's quite a lot considering there are only 5 million people in Norway.
chrisbolt 3y ago
See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37403583 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37403583

35 points by kbf 3y ago

google translate provides a reasonable translation: https://nrkbeta-no.translate.goog/2023/09/06/datatilsynet-vant-frem-i-oslo-tingrett-mot-meta/?_x_tr_sl=no&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://nrkbeta-no.translate.goog/2023/09/06/datatilsynet-va... Meta is ordered by a district court to pay Norwegian crowns 1 million (USD ~94.000) (edit: per day) for not offering an opt-in model regarding behaviorbased ads. Not sure if Meta is sufficiently intimidated by this to change its ways though.

LoganDark 3y ago
is that 94 USD or 94000 USD?
- syntaxing 3y ago
  Not sure if you’re trolling but . and , are used reversed of us Americans in Europe.
  - LoganDark 3y ago
    ...I wasn't trolling.
  - AlchemistCamp 3y ago
    It doesn’t seem to be in the UK: https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/Manchester.html https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/Manchester.html or in Ireland: https://www.spiritmotorgroup.ie/premium/used-vehicles/ https://www.spiritmotorgroup.ie/premium/used-vehicles/ I’d say it’s language-based. In English, 10.000 means 10. In many other European languages, it means 10000. In some languages I speak, large numbers are separated with a comma every fourth numeral. In any case, it’s a good idea to follow the conventions of the language you’re using if your goal is to communicate with all of its speakers and not just a subgroup.
    - syntaxing 3y ago
      I’m sure there’s exceptions. Come on, are you really telling me if you saw the number 10.000 you would think $10? 10.00 or 10,00 fine. But 10.000?
      - AlchemistCamp 3y ago
        I wouldn’t assume it’s currency if there weren’t a dollar sign, but yes. To me, 10.0, 10.00, 10.000 and 10.0000 all look the same and I wouldn’t hesitate to see them as 10. The only difference is that more zeroes implies more precision. 10,00 looks like a typo, either of 10,000 or of 10.00, but if I saw it surrounded by a bunch of German text, I’d know it meant 10.
      - LoganDark 3y ago
        I couldn't tell if the extra zero was a typo or not. People say stuff like "$94.00" a lot
    - pezezin 3y ago
      That's why nowadays the recommended thousands separator is the blank space, to prevent this kind of confusion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator#Digit_grouping https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator#Digit_groupi... By the way, honest question: > In some languages I speak, large numbers are separated with a comma every fourth numeral. Which languages are those? I live in Japan, and whereas the spoken language separates numbers by myriads (as do most other languages in East Asia), numbers are usually written down with commas every 3 digits, which is really confusing...
      - AlchemistCamp 3y ago
        According to some of my friends with kids there, Japanese public schools used to teach putting a comma every 3rd digit but for the past few years have been using a comma every 4th digit.
        pezezin 3y ago
- 8organicbits 3y ago
  About $93000 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=1%2C000%2C000+nok+in+usd&t=fpas&ia=currency https://duckduckgo.com/?q=1%2C000%2C000+nok+in+usd&t=fpas&ia...
linguistics__ 3y ago
That's 1 million kroner per day, just fyi
- stareatgoats 3y ago
  thanks for the catch - my doubts still stand though. Meta will likely drag this through the appeal processes for as long as it takes.
paddim8 3y ago
That's quite a lot considering there are only 5 million people in Norway.

chrisbolt 3y ago

See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37403583 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37403583