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Its 2023, how have we come so far with this nonsense. I would have thought Firefox would be king of the browsers by now. But nope, people love their data being

by scopeh 3y ago

Its 2023, how have we come so far with this nonsense. I would have thought Firefox would be king of the browsers by now. But nope, people love their data being sucked up and used by the big G.

Scoring6931 3y ago
Mozilla dug their own grave, to be fair.
dindobre 3y ago
Mozilla focused on the wrong things for a few years
- pyrale 3y ago
  It doesn't really matter what Mozilla did. They never had the budget to compete with Google on browser advertising anyway. If you look at the market share progression of the old opera and mozilla vs. internet explorer, and you compare it to the stellar rise of Chrome when it came out, it's really obvious that Chrome's success is due mostly to advertising.
  - chomp 3y ago
    Blows my mind that people think that there’s some magical way that Firefox could have competed. Chrome had ads on google.com, like the home page. No one except Google gets those ads. 90-second prime time tv spots. And they also scattered nudges throughout their entire website. Google ran a relentless ad campaign to get people to switch, and no browser on Earth was able to compete with that.
    - dindobre 3y ago
      I agree Firefox never had a chance, but there is losing a battle and there is diving head first onto the floor. Mozilla played the few cards it had not that well.
tazjin 3y ago
Firefox is just less usable. It's slower and a lot of config options are missing. Stuff that is common in enterprises and has buttons in Chrome (e.g. "add the intranet search to your browser!") is hard in Firefox (you have to write and serve a specific XML file somewhere). Also it has a big incredible redesign every 2 weeks, as far as I can tell from HN, while Chrome's UI is mostly boring and stable.
- Tistron 3y ago
  Yeah. For me, the main feature that has me use chrome instead is that it can remember my credit card details. I don't understand how it can be that firefox doesn't do this, it's so annoying.
  - vbarrielle 3y ago
    Firefox has a "saved credit cards" feature. I'm not using it, so maybe I'm unaware of its limitations?
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - yaps8 3y ago
    Firefox actually also does it, maybe limited based on location. For instance here they announce it for UK, France, Germany (in 2022) and say it was available in the US/Canada since 2018: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-credit-card-autofill-uk-france-germany/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/fi...
    - Tistron 3y ago
      That's good news I guess. Any idea about why it's geographically limited? I'm not in one of those countries, unfortunately.
  - skitter 3y ago
    Firefox does do this.
deathlight 3y ago
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by scopeh 3y ago

Its 2023, how have we come so far with this nonsense. I would have thought Firefox would be king of the browsers by now. But nope, people love their data being sucked up and used by the big G.

Scoring6931 3y ago

Mozilla dug their own grave, to be fair.

dindobre 3y ago

Mozilla focused on the wrong things for a few years

pyrale 3y ago
It doesn't really matter what Mozilla did. They never had the budget to compete with Google on browser advertising anyway. If you look at the market share progression of the old opera and mozilla vs. internet explorer, and you compare it to the stellar rise of Chrome when it came out, it's really obvious that Chrome's success is due mostly to advertising.
- chomp 3y ago
  Blows my mind that people think that there’s some magical way that Firefox could have competed. Chrome had ads on google.com, like the home page. No one except Google gets those ads. 90-second prime time tv spots. And they also scattered nudges throughout their entire website. Google ran a relentless ad campaign to get people to switch, and no browser on Earth was able to compete with that.
  - dindobre 3y ago
    I agree Firefox never had a chance, but there is losing a battle and there is diving head first onto the floor. Mozilla played the few cards it had not that well.

tazjin 3y ago

Firefox is just less usable. It's slower and a lot of config options are missing. Stuff that is common in enterprises and has buttons in Chrome (e.g. "add the intranet search to your browser!") is hard in Firefox (you have to write and serve a specific XML file somewhere). Also it has a big incredible redesign every 2 weeks, as far as I can tell from HN, while Chrome's UI is mostly boring and stable.

Tistron 3y ago
Yeah. For me, the main feature that has me use chrome instead is that it can remember my credit card details. I don't understand how it can be that firefox doesn't do this, it's so annoying.
- vbarrielle 3y ago
  Firefox has a "saved credit cards" feature. I'm not using it, so maybe I'm unaware of its limitations?
- deleted 3y ago
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- yaps8 3y ago
  Firefox actually also does it, maybe limited based on location. For instance here they announce it for UK, France, Germany (in 2022) and say it was available in the US/Canada since 2018: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-credit-card-autofill-uk-france-germany/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/fi...
  - Tistron 3y ago
    That's good news I guess. Any idea about why it's geographically limited? I'm not in one of those countries, unfortunately.
- skitter 3y ago
  Firefox does do this.

deathlight 3y ago

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