Depends if you are counting correct and common English words. But yea it’s close to about 12 char anything you can hit on a keyboard entirely random. I figured

Depends if you are counting correct and common English words. But yea it’s close to about 12 char anything you can hit on a keyboard entirely random. I figured 3e23 vs 4e23, you know “close” ;) Now… get 80 people to remember a 12 char randoms. No resets means no one has forgotten their pass phrase. I can not be just explaining passphrases to you now. But also, spicing a pass phrase up is huge and not just a few bits more entropy. You go from 24 chars that are 5 word options to 24 char almost completely random again.