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> Of course, mined diamonds aren’t blood diamonds, but her impression was still they were a little ickier For all intents and purposes, they are. The voluntary

> Of course, mined diamonds aren’t blood diamonds, but her impression was still they were a little ickier For all intents and purposes, they are. The voluntary processes the diamond cartels adopted to supposedly reduce diamonds coming out of "conflict areas" are a joke. Most diamonds are mined under exploitive conditions, often with severe ecological impact, and the owners are almost without exception "blood on their hands" people even if one particular mine operates more ethically.

Buttons840 3y ago
Plus, that one ethical mine plays the market game, limits supply, and thus helps keep the unethical mines running.
bluedevil2k 3y ago
Sources to any of these wild (and grossly outdated) claims? > Most diamonds are mined under exploitative conditions You’ve clearly never been to a diamond mine. More than 70% of diamonds come out of “modern” countries like Australia, Canada, Russia, and South Africa. Botswana used their diamond bounty to teach hundreds of their citizens to grade/cut/polish the very stones mined in the country, ensuring tons of high skill jobs. > the owners are almost without exception "blood on their hands" people Well you’re only right on a loophole on this one - the Russian government owns the company that produces 40% of the world’s diamonds and it would be tough to argue Putin is blood-free.
- ryanwaggoner 3y ago
  And yet you just respond with your own unsourced claims?
  - theonlybutlet 3y ago
    That's just ridiculous. May as well ask you why you never cited his comment when you commented? You can Google this. Russia, Canada, Australia, South Africa, Botswana.(the contentious one would be DRC). These are regulated countries with labour rights and human rights. If they operate in these countries they are subject to those laws. May as well say you won't buy anything imported if you still feel there's ambiguity. These are industries in these countries. Without these exports these people don't have jobs which feed them.
defrost 3y ago
Here you go, a 100% guaranteed conflict free blood red diamond https://www.australiandiamondvalley.com.au/products/10ct-authentic-australian-red-argyle-diamond-red https://www.australiandiamondvalley.com.au/products/10ct-aut... https://www.solidgold.com.au/argyle-red-diamonds.html https://www.solidgold.com.au/argyle-red-diamonds.html If you object to the mine owners (rio tinto) "blood on their hands" (from > 2,000 years of mining since Roman occupied Spain) then get rid of all your steel products as they're a major supplier of raw high grade iron ore (and copper, and ...) https://www.riotinto.com/en/operations/australia/argyle https://www.riotinto.com/en/operations/australia/argyle (NB: If you're going to downvote at least provide a comment as to why)
- boesboes 3y ago
  I dont have any choice in where my steel comes from, but i can still choose not to buy diamonds from those cunts

Buttons840 3y ago

Plus, that one ethical mine plays the market game, limits supply, and thus helps keep the unethical mines running.

bluedevil2k 3y ago

Sources to any of these wild (and grossly outdated) claims? > Most diamonds are mined under exploitative conditions You’ve clearly never been to a diamond mine. More than 70% of diamonds come out of “modern” countries like Australia, Canada, Russia, and South Africa. Botswana used their diamond bounty to teach hundreds of their citizens to grade/cut/polish the very stones mined in the country, ensuring tons of high skill jobs. > the owners are almost without exception "blood on their hands" people Well you’re only right on a loophole on this one - the Russian government owns the company that produces 40% of the world’s diamonds and it would be tough to argue Putin is blood-free.

ryanwaggoner 3y ago
And yet you just respond with your own unsourced claims?
- theonlybutlet 3y ago
  That's just ridiculous. May as well ask you why you never cited his comment when you commented? You can Google this. Russia, Canada, Australia, South Africa, Botswana.(the contentious one would be DRC). These are regulated countries with labour rights and human rights. If they operate in these countries they are subject to those laws. May as well say you won't buy anything imported if you still feel there's ambiguity. These are industries in these countries. Without these exports these people don't have jobs which feed them.

defrost 3y ago

Here you go, a 100% guaranteed conflict free blood red diamond https://www.australiandiamondvalley.com.au/products/10ct-authentic-australian-red-argyle-diamond-red https://www.australiandiamondvalley.com.au/products/10ct-aut... https://www.solidgold.com.au/argyle-red-diamonds.html https://www.solidgold.com.au/argyle-red-diamonds.html If you object to the mine owners (rio tinto) "blood on their hands" (from > 2,000 years of mining since Roman occupied Spain) then get rid of all your steel products as they're a major supplier of raw high grade iron ore (and copper, and ...) https://www.riotinto.com/en/operations/australia/argyle https://www.riotinto.com/en/operations/australia/argyle (NB: If you're going to downvote at least provide a comment as to why)

boesboes 3y ago
I dont have any choice in where my steel comes from, but i can still choose not to buy diamonds from those cunts