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I've been thinking about this, and to be honest that could equally be seen as sexist, and also backfire. Things like But you may be in a better strategic posit
by ErrantX 15y ago
I've been thinking about this, and to be honest that could equally be seen as sexist, and also backfire.
Things like But you may be in a better strategic position than Amy to negotiate the necessary change could certainly be considered sexist if voiced. What you are suggesting is much the same as what I did do - simply missing out the overt portion.
It has advantages; it probably saves people being put in awkward positions, on the spot. But it could take longer, and backfire on you personally. And theoretically (I suppose) it could solidify ones own even-more-subtle sexism.
This is why I struggle with situations of equality in general. I think the whole issue is a minefield where you are damned if you do, and damned if you don't. And any thought process will end up offending someone.
Ultimately the key is to do whatever you do for the right reasons. The wrong reasons are probably "because she cant stand up for herself" and the right reason is probably "because that doesn't seem right". With empathy and common sense applied in spades.
As you say; this is a lot easier to address in a cohesive environment. By my observation - if people are playing office politics the sexism is probably just one part of an overall game.
- mechanical_fish 15y agoThings like But you may be in a better strategic position than Amy to negotiate the necessary change* could certainly be considered sexist if voiced.* Trying to teach manners through the Internet is like trying to teach bicycling by correspondence course. Yes, of course I wouldn't say that out loud, ever, except in a high-level meta-conversation about an imaginary office populated by imaginary people drinking imaginary tea. In the real world, I would ideally say nothing at all, except perhaps "I'm going to make some tea; would anyone like some?" And then there would be tea. Delicious tea.
- ErrantX 15y agoHeh :) I was playing devils advocate, mostly to highlight how even that thought process could be construed in the same way as my overt actions. I agree, with the action you mention in the last paragraph - that is the action I should have taken. What I was questioning was the thought process behind that action, and arguing it was little different to my own, could also be seen as sexist, and is only "OK" by virtue of being not-overt :) Mostly I was thinking aloud. Now, coffee break.
- mst 15y agoDay 1: "My turn to make the tea" Day 2: let $amy make the tea Day 3: "You did it yesterday, I'll do it again - I guess the rest of these fucks are too lazy or incompetent to use a fucking teapot." (adjust word choice for the day 3 variant to an appropriate level for your team's social context)