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We don't want to allow people to utilize the resources we have. There are more houses than housed and unhoused people but we keep building more and pricing out

We don't want to allow people to utilize the resources we have. There are more houses than housed and unhoused people but we keep building more and pricing out the poors. The poors grow in number every year. We just don't care. We like our society this way. This is what we want.

fallingknife 3y ago
This is a ridiculous argument. There are 143 million housing units in the US and 600k homeless. That means that a vacancy rate of 0.4%, or 1.5 days per year is enough to make that true. Vacancy just due to people moving will greatly exceed that number.
- deprecative 3y ago
  You're proving my point while disagreeing with me? I'd like for that to be a new one. We want this. This is us.
  - analognoise 3y ago
    I don't know how accurate it was, but I read that 27% of Canadians were fine with MAID (medical assistance in dying - i.e. euthanasia) for those whose only affliction was "poverty". https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-maid-assisted-suicide-homeless https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-maid-assisted-su... I've been thinking about that a lot recently. You're right: this is who, at least a large group of us, are.
    - defrost 3y ago
      That's very much the worst possible spin on people's feelings with a framed poll and National Post reporting though. It could equally be argued that 27% of Canadians do not agree that MAID should be restricted, the poll question was preambled: At this point, only an adult with a grievous and irremediable medical condition can seek medical assistance in dying in Canada ... and went to list other conditions (povety, homelessness, disability, etc). One extreme interpretation is that all those replies indicate support for culling the weak. The other extreme interpretation is that all those replies support the self determined right to seek assisted suicide regardless of conditions.
      - fallingknife 3y ago
        People love to take these statistics and make them something they are not and complain about how terrible our society is. It makes them feel morally superior.

fallingknife 3y ago

This is a ridiculous argument. There are 143 million housing units in the US and 600k homeless. That means that a vacancy rate of 0.4%, or 1.5 days per year is enough to make that true. Vacancy just due to people moving will greatly exceed that number.

deprecative 3y ago
You're proving my point while disagreeing with me? I'd like for that to be a new one. We want this. This is us.
- analognoise 3y ago
  I don't know how accurate it was, but I read that 27% of Canadians were fine with MAID (medical assistance in dying - i.e. euthanasia) for those whose only affliction was "poverty". https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-maid-assisted-suicide-homeless https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-maid-assisted-su... I've been thinking about that a lot recently. You're right: this is who, at least a large group of us, are.
  - defrost 3y ago
    That's very much the worst possible spin on people's feelings with a framed poll and National Post reporting though. It could equally be argued that 27% of Canadians do not agree that MAID should be restricted, the poll question was preambled: At this point, only an adult with a grievous and irremediable medical condition can seek medical assistance in dying in Canada ... and went to list other conditions (povety, homelessness, disability, etc). One extreme interpretation is that all those replies indicate support for culling the weak. The other extreme interpretation is that all those replies support the self determined right to seek assisted suicide regardless of conditions.
    - fallingknife 3y ago
      People love to take these statistics and make them something they are not and complain about how terrible our society is. It makes them feel morally superior.