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So, Google is free. They were hiring for a very expensive employee class and doing 0 research? I find that hard to believe. I think they knew what a dev would c
by yardie 3y ago
So, Google is free. They were hiring for a very expensive employee class and doing 0 research? I find that hard to believe. I think they knew what a dev would cost and were hoping to be hire from the left side of the salary curve.
I've also been in a few interviews where the company was being evasive about the salary range. In every case it was below market and the hiring manager was just too embarrassed or too scammy to state it. Hoping they would hire someone desperate enough (ie "exposure").
- Invictus0 3y agoHave you ever met business owners? They're not all that smart
- granshaw 3y agoIn fact intelligence is negatively correlated with success in business. It’s all grit and a certain irrational headstrongness that’s needed
- reducesuffering 3y ago[flagged]
- chasontherobot 3y agoThis, but not sarcastic.
- reducesuffering 3y agoYou must be great at business
- baq 3y agoI refrain from quoting pg nowadays but he used to be worth reading, here's an article from that period which is of some interest: http://paulgraham.com/founders.html http://paulgraham.com/founders.html No words on low IQ but absolutely nothing about being a genius. Also, a paragraph which may point at mild psychopathy as a good trait to have. Which is absolutely in line with top leadership.
- reducesuffering 3y agoGP said: > intelligence is negatively correlated with success in business Has anyone ever seen a negative correlation on a graph? It implies the most successful businessman are practically the dumbest people to exist. It's an extremely foolish, incorrect assertion. GP and downvoters must be amazing at business.
- mrguyorama 3y agoAnd yet the richest person in the world is the exact person to pay double the value for a shitty social media company by making an inane comment on their platform AFTER the SEC already warned him that, after the first time he made an inane comment on that platform that was substantially relevant to public markets, he would be forced to follow through. Yeah I'm not convinced there is any connection between intelligence and business acumen.
- reducesuffering 3y agoThen you would agree with the whole premise of my thread, that > In fact intelligence is negatively correlated with success in business. is BS if you're "not convinced there is any connection between intelligence and business acumen."
- alvah 3y agoYour theory is that Elon Musk is unintelligent? That's a pretty wild take.
- withinboredom 3y agoHave you seen his unedited press releases? He isn’t that bright.
- alvah 3y agoIn the last couple of months I’ve seen him absolutely destroy a BBC journalist in an off-the-cuff battle of wits. Is luck the only reason you’re not richer than him?
- josephg 3y agoSounds false. Do you have any citations for this claim?
- MichaelZuo 3y agoOnly beyond a certain point. Once someone gets to Bill Gates level intelligence, I would agree any additional steps beyond that probably negatively correlates with grit and 'a certain irrational headstrongness' to a sizable amount, so much so that it noticeably reduces chances of business success.
- barrkel 3y agoI think most successful business owners are above average intelligence, but they’re also frequently really blinkered - they know a lot about something but almost nothing about a lot of other stuff, if it hasn’t come up in their path. It’s such a noticeable lopsidedness that I almost wonder if it’s a kind of prerequisite for being so foolish as to start a business.
- michaelmrose 3y agoThe main criteria for becoming a business owner is access to capital not ability and by there are more small businesses then large concerns. Furthermore actually smart people aren't generally blinkered intelligence is by definition generalizable. Your confusing reasonably trained in a narrow area with intelligence.
- Eisenstein 3y ago> intelligence is by definition generalizable. How do you define intelligence?
- michaelmrose 3y agoI like this definition "A very general mental capability that, among other things, involves the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly and learn from experience. It is not merely book learning, a narrow academic skill, or test-taking smarts. Rather, it reflects a broader and deeper capability for comprehending our surroundings—"catching on," "making sense" of things, or "figuring out" what to do"
- alvah 3y agoI don't know where you live, but in most Western countries the capital required to become a business owner (i.e. start a legal business entity) is within reach of most people.
- michaelmrose 3y ago
- michaelt 3y ago> So, Google is free. They were hiring for a very expensive employee class and doing 0 research? Some services vary in price by huge amounts. Use Google to research how much it costs to have a company logo professionally designed, and you'll find you can spend anything from $5 (remote fiverr designer slaps your name on a stock template) to $5,000,000 (fancy ad agency rebrand for a fortune 500 company) So I can see how someone could accidentally make an insultingly low offer for some services, despite having tried to research beforehand.