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Sometimes. Occasionally specific skills just aren’t available. For example, there are many available construction laborers, but very few skilled carpenters. My

Sometimes. Occasionally specific skills just aren’t available. For example, there are many available construction laborers, but very few skilled carpenters. My friend and his brother are electricians… they quote $600/hr for new customers and the response is “when can you start”. Often the timeframe isn’t acceptable, and they don’t overbook. With trucking, it’s specific types of runs that you cannot fill. Nobody wants to take LTL loads to NYC at any price.

sokoloff 3y ago
Nobody wants to take LTL loads to NYC at any price that people will pay. I'd go get a CDL and take LTL loads to NYC for $1M/pallet if enough people would pay that.
- Spooky23 3y ago
  We don’t live in an Economics 101 world. Unless you’re talking military airlift or similar. What does happen is that companies with local agent networks or partners will engage that local partner. NYC is large enough that all sorts of unusual capability exists. If you need to get a bunch of farm animals in midtown, there are in-region companies who can do that. Companies that don’t have appropriate supply chain ops just aren’t going to effectively do business. If in-region to you means a DC in North Carolina, for example, you’re probably going to get eaten alive by the competition.
  - somewhat_drunk 3y ago
    >We don’t live in an Economics 101 world. We do, in fact, live in an Economics 101 world. Sure, you also need Economics 102-499 to fully explain how it all works, but applying Economics 101 to any economic situation will yield a correct understanding 90% of the time. That said, the poster you're referring to is 100% correct: every service has a price at which people will perform it.
ndiddy 3y ago
Sure, but you have to look into why the skills aren't available. With trades, it's typically because nobody is willing to train people from scratch, so it's not surprising that they can't find anyone willing to spend several years getting paid minimum wage to do manual labor while simultaneously paying for trade school. A lot of the older guys working in trades learned their skills in the military, but with declining enlistment and the military increasingly farming out that work to contractors, that doesn't happen as much anymore. Tradesmen definitely do make good money eventually, but by then they're in their 30s with debt and a sore back.

sokoloff 3y ago

Nobody wants to take LTL loads to NYC at any price that people will pay. I'd go get a CDL and take LTL loads to NYC for $1M/pallet if enough people would pay that.

Spooky23 3y ago
We don’t live in an Economics 101 world. Unless you’re talking military airlift or similar. What does happen is that companies with local agent networks or partners will engage that local partner. NYC is large enough that all sorts of unusual capability exists. If you need to get a bunch of farm animals in midtown, there are in-region companies who can do that. Companies that don’t have appropriate supply chain ops just aren’t going to effectively do business. If in-region to you means a DC in North Carolina, for example, you’re probably going to get eaten alive by the competition.
- somewhat_drunk 3y ago
  >We don’t live in an Economics 101 world. We do, in fact, live in an Economics 101 world. Sure, you also need Economics 102-499 to fully explain how it all works, but applying Economics 101 to any economic situation will yield a correct understanding 90% of the time. That said, the poster you're referring to is 100% correct: every service has a price at which people will perform it.

ndiddy 3y ago

Sure, but you have to look into why the skills aren't available. With trades, it's typically because nobody is willing to train people from scratch, so it's not surprising that they can't find anyone willing to spend several years getting paid minimum wage to do manual labor while simultaneously paying for trade school. A lot of the older guys working in trades learned their skills in the military, but with declining enlistment and the military increasingly farming out that work to contractors, that doesn't happen as much anymore. Tradesmen definitely do make good money eventually, but by then they're in their 30s with debt and a sore back.