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There's the Babylon Bee deplatforming that led to Musk buying Twitter. The Babylon Bee called a public official who is a biological man a 'man'. So Twitter depl

There's the Babylon Bee deplatforming that led to Musk buying Twitter. The Babylon Bee called a public official who is a biological man a 'man'. So Twitter deplatformed the Babylon Bee.

afavour 3y ago
> Twitter locked the account of a right-leaning parody site, The Babylon Bee, after it awarded Rachel Levine, the transgender Biden administration official, the title of “man of the year.” https://nypost.com/2022/03/21/twitter-suspends-babylon-bee-over-rachel-levine-man-of-the-year-title/ https://nypost.com/2022/03/21/twitter-suspends-babylon-bee-o... That’s pretty obviously a personal attack. There’s a very obvious difference between holding and expressing a personal opinion on gender identity and launching a public attack against a specific person. This is the way these complaints always go. “conservatives are being censored!” becomes “well sure, they were censored because they violated the terms and conditions of the site in a distasteful way but why is that important?!”
- Georgelemental 3y ago
  If I Tweet "Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine is evil and wrong, and also he is a bad person and his armpits stink!" am I making a personal attack that should get me banned from the platform?
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  - afavour 3y ago
    You really think that a personal attack on the head of state for Russia and an assistant secretary for health are equivalent? How much harassment do you think Putin would be subject to as a result of you (assuming you have the 1.3m followers the Babylon Bee has, which you don’t) attacking him? We both know you don’t think they’re equivalent. You’re just trying to find technicalities to excuse abhorrent behaviour.
    - Georgelemental 3y ago
      > an assistant secretary for health Specifically, Levine is the Assistant Secretary for Health—a senior political appointee, chosen by the President and confirmed by the Senate, reporting directly to the Cabinet-level Secretary for Health and Human Services. Also a uniformed four-star admiral (2 ranks below Commander-in-Chief) in the world's most powerful military. Oversees thousands of government employees, millions of dollars in taxpayer funds, influences major policy decisions that affect the lives of millions. In free societies, writers are allowed to criticize, and even mock, powerful political and government officials. But perhaps you prefer the Russian system?
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- feltmann 3y ago
  They were satirising USA Today honoring him with a 'Woman Of The Year' award. It was rather on point: > Levine is the U.S. assistant secretary for health for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, where he serves proudly as the first man in that position to dress like a western cultural stereotype of a woman. Just highlights how absurd it is for him to be receiving accolades that should be reserved for women, doesn't it.
  - mrguyorama 3y ago
    >Just highlights how absurd it is for him to be receiving accolades that should be reserved for women, doesn't it. So your assertion is that they aren't a woman because they were born with a penis? What is a woman then?
    - feltmann 3y ago
      An adult female human, of course.
      - mrguyorama 3y ago
        What defines a female human?
        Georgelemental 3y ago
        A female is a living organism possessing (or having once possessed, if they were removed or destroyed through illness or injury) sexual organs designed to produce ova. A human is a member of the genus homo.
        mrguyorama 3y ago
        So what sex/gender are people born without reproductive organs? Also, what does it mean for an organ to be "designed" to do something? Who or what is the designer?
mock-possum 3y ago
“Who is a biological man” Yikes dude.
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  "But but that's just my opinion and disagreeing with my opinion in a perfectly legal way by making a statement in retort is somehow a violation of my free speech rights!!!!"

There's the Babylon Bee deplatforming that led to Musk buying Twitter. The Babylon Bee called a public official who is a biological man a 'man'. So Twitter deplatformed the Babylon Bee.

afavour 3y ago

> Twitter locked the account of a right-leaning parody site, The Babylon Bee, after it awarded Rachel Levine, the transgender Biden administration official, the title of “man of the year.” https://nypost.com/2022/03/21/twitter-suspends-babylon-bee-over-rachel-levine-man-of-the-year-title/ https://nypost.com/2022/03/21/twitter-suspends-babylon-bee-o... That’s pretty obviously a personal attack. There’s a very obvious difference between holding and expressing a personal opinion on gender identity and launching a public attack against a specific person. This is the way these complaints always go. “conservatives are being censored!” becomes “well sure, they were censored because they violated the terms and conditions of the site in a distasteful way but why is that important?!”

Georgelemental 3y ago
If I Tweet "Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine is evil and wrong, and also he is a bad person and his armpits stink!" am I making a personal attack that should get me banned from the platform?
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- afavour 3y ago
  You really think that a personal attack on the head of state for Russia and an assistant secretary for health are equivalent? How much harassment do you think Putin would be subject to as a result of you (assuming you have the 1.3m followers the Babylon Bee has, which you don’t) attacking him? We both know you don’t think they’re equivalent. You’re just trying to find technicalities to excuse abhorrent behaviour.
  - Georgelemental 3y ago
    > an assistant secretary for health Specifically, Levine is the Assistant Secretary for Health—a senior political appointee, chosen by the President and confirmed by the Senate, reporting directly to the Cabinet-level Secretary for Health and Human Services. Also a uniformed four-star admiral (2 ranks below Commander-in-Chief) in the world's most powerful military. Oversees thousands of government employees, millions of dollars in taxpayer funds, influences major policy decisions that affect the lives of millions. In free societies, writers are allowed to criticize, and even mock, powerful political and government officials. But perhaps you prefer the Russian system?
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feltmann 3y ago
They were satirising USA Today honoring him with a 'Woman Of The Year' award. It was rather on point: > Levine is the U.S. assistant secretary for health for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, where he serves proudly as the first man in that position to dress like a western cultural stereotype of a woman. Just highlights how absurd it is for him to be receiving accolades that should be reserved for women, doesn't it.
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  >Just highlights how absurd it is for him to be receiving accolades that should be reserved for women, doesn't it. So your assertion is that they aren't a woman because they were born with a penis? What is a woman then?
  - feltmann 3y ago
    An adult female human, of course.
    - mrguyorama 3y ago
      What defines a female human?
      - Georgelemental 3y ago
        A female is a living organism possessing (or having once possessed, if they were removed or destroyed through illness or injury) sexual organs designed to produce ova. A human is a member of the genus homo.
        mrguyorama 3y ago
        So what sex/gender are people born without reproductive organs? Also, what does it mean for an organ to be "designed" to do something? Who or what is the designer?

mock-possum 3y ago

“Who is a biological man” Yikes dude.

mrguyorama 3y ago
"But but that's just my opinion and disagreeing with my opinion in a perfectly legal way by making a statement in retort is somehow a violation of my free speech rights!!!!"