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Sure, so he tends to side with traditional power structures over rights and liberties. For instance: * He wants to institute a test and ban people from voting
by EthanHeilman 3y ago
Sure, so he tends to side with traditional power structures over rights and liberties. For instance:
* He wants to institute a test and ban people from voting under the age of 25 who don't pass the test. This favors the institution who creates the test over the individual. His policy position here is to take away voting rights and empower institutions. [0]
* He is anti-choice for abortion. Generally this is seen as an anti-individualist stance as it favors institutional religious authority over individual choice. He favors state bans and says he would not implement a federal ban. [1]
* He opposes secularism saying:
> "When you abandon religion, you don’t lose the need for God. You just start worshiping new gods instead. The left embraces secular religions: wokeism, Covidism, climateism. The right flocks to Christ-like human saviors, only to be disappointed every time. It’s happening yet again. [..] The need to believe in something higher is a feature of the human condition, a thing that distinguishes us from animals. We’re better off recognizing it." [2]
Now he is welcome to his opinion, but this opinion speaks to how he thinks. That people need something over them, that if you don't don't give them some sort of false idol, they invent their own. This is Plato's Noble lie [3] and fundamentally anti-individualist. That the meaning of someone's life only matters if it comes from an authority.
I call this conservative atheism, that the actual existence of God is immaterial, what is important is the belief in some great chain of being, with authorities above individuals. I have more respect for conservatives who actually believe in a God (or Gods) than atheist conservatives who see the propagation of a lie about a sky-tyrant as required for their political program. It's the intellectual dishonesty of a cult leader.
While many people who are described as Woke would be scandalized to be called an individualist, at its core the conservative opposition to Wokism is comes an opposition to individualism and individualism is the basis of liberty.
[0] : https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/08/24/vivek-ramaswamy-policy-gop-candidate/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/08/24/vivek-ram...
[1] : https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/2024-presidential-candidates-stand-abortion-102405676 https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/2024-presidential-ca...
[2] : https://web.archive.org/web/20230905152654/https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1594025323632500737?lang=en https://web.archive.org/web/20230905152654/https://twitter.c...
[3] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_lie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_lie
- Georgelemental 3y ago> He is anti-choice for abortion. Generally this is seen as an anti-individualist stance as it favors institutional religious authority over individual choice. He favors state bans and says he would not implement a federal ban. I am an agnostic, I subscribe to no religious authority, and I oppose abortion because it violates the child's individual freedom to experience life.
- EthanHeilman 3y agoI recognize this argument exists, I do not agree with it, but it is logically sound. This is why I worded it as "Generally this is seen as ...", but I could have done a better job expressing that ambiguity. Not all anti-abortion arguments are anti-individualist but most are, almost all pro-choice arguments are based on individualism which is why it is phased as choice.
- deadeye 3y agoThat all seems like a fair representation of his positions, but I don't agree with your analysis of them. I do agree that individualism is important to liberty, but I can't connect your dots. Wokism is collectivism, as you seem to recognize. But how is his message of being anti-woke also collectivism? I don't get that leap.
- EthanHeilman 3y agoAn issue here is that wokism is a term used as an insult by the antiwoke but not a term of self-description. So wokism is defined by the people against it and this leads to it being anything conservatives don't like as understood by conservatives. Most of what the anti-woke hate about wokism, is wokisms argument that individuals should be allowed to define their own identity. For instance pronouns: antiwokism wants to have society at large decide what someone's pronouns are and are upset that people they describe as "woke" want to allow individuals to define their own gender identity. Or consider the case of gay marriage, the argument against it that you can't let individuals decide how to understand their own relationships or else it undermines the collective authority of society over individuals.