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More proof that the Moscow-based disinformation campaign continues to work despite more people actually paying attention to what Russia is actually doing. Wikil

More proof that the Moscow-based disinformation campaign continues to work despite more people actually paying attention to what Russia is actually doing. Wikileaks played an important role in exposing mistakes and malfeasance by the US government - but it's worth noting that Assange is not WikiLeaks - and has often been at odds with them. Currently, he is nothing more than a sock-puppet for authoritarian right voices.

peepeepoopoo34 3y ago
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Georgelemental 3y ago
"If you are not with us 100%, you are against us and therefore deserve to rot in jail forever!" Personally, when I see authoritarian nations like Russia criminalize dissent, I don't consider it a model to emulate. But it seems many in the West disagree, they think we are falling behind in the repression department and need to catch up ASAP.
- InTheArena 3y ago
  Nice strawman. I don't support giving known Russian agents, who have acted in ways that are clearly designed to further Russian political goals (which right now consists of murdering people in Ukraine) exemptions from the law.
- vel0city 3y ago
  They're not criminalizing dissent in their indictment of Assange, they're criminalizing the conspiracy to hack government systems with the intent to leak state secrets. If Assange didn't help Manning dig deeper as alleged, there was no crime. If he did assist, he committed a crime. It's entirely disconnected from publishing documents you happened to come across, which according to New York Times Co. vs United States is not a crime. Do you see how there's a difference between actively taking a role in attacking state computer systems versus just publishing documents? They're two very different acts. A journalist equips someone to break into some company building, rifling through their records to show the public they're poisoning the river. The person doing the search gets caught and are arrested after they find what they were looking for. The journalist publishes their findings. The person who was caught had their phone linking them to the journalist equipping them. The journalist is charged with conspiracy of breaking and entering and trespassing. See how writing the article isn't the thing being tried here?

peepeepoopoo34 3y ago

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Georgelemental 3y ago

"If you are not with us 100%, you are against us and therefore deserve to rot in jail forever!" Personally, when I see authoritarian nations like Russia criminalize dissent, I don't consider it a model to emulate. But it seems many in the West disagree, they think we are falling behind in the repression department and need to catch up ASAP.

InTheArena 3y ago
Nice strawman. I don't support giving known Russian agents, who have acted in ways that are clearly designed to further Russian political goals (which right now consists of murdering people in Ukraine) exemptions from the law.
vel0city 3y ago
They're not criminalizing dissent in their indictment of Assange, they're criminalizing the conspiracy to hack government systems with the intent to leak state secrets. If Assange didn't help Manning dig deeper as alleged, there was no crime. If he did assist, he committed a crime. It's entirely disconnected from publishing documents you happened to come across, which according to New York Times Co. vs United States is not a crime. Do you see how there's a difference between actively taking a role in attacking state computer systems versus just publishing documents? They're two very different acts. A journalist equips someone to break into some company building, rifling through their records to show the public they're poisoning the river. The person doing the search gets caught and are arrested after they find what they were looking for. The journalist publishes their findings. The person who was caught had their phone linking them to the journalist equipping them. The journalist is charged with conspiracy of breaking and entering and trespassing. See how writing the article isn't the thing being tried here?