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Of course they do. Take this one for example: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Field-Roast-Refrigerated-Classic-Smoked-Frankfurter-Plant-Based-Sausages-16-oz/165920

by treis 3y ago

Of course they do. Take this one for example: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Field-Roast-Refrigerated-Classic-Smoked-Frankfurter-Plant-Based-Sausages-16-oz/165920741?wl13=3067&selectedSellerId=0 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Field-Roast-Refrigerated-Classic-... They relegate any mention of not being meat to the third most prominent text. Hilariously they even split the plant based from the meat and cheese co with the intention to fool you. The text is: (Small text) Plant Based (Big text) Field Roast (Small text) Meat and cheese co Like they're not even trying to hide that they're hiding what their product is. ETA: Contrast with coconut milk: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Silk-Dairy-Free-Gluten-Free-Unsweet-Coconut-Milk-64-fl-oz-Half-Gallon/37910813?athbdg=L1600&from=/search https://www.walmart.com/ip/Silk-Dairy-Free-Gluten-Free-Unswe... Any mention of "Milk" is like the 4th or 5th most prominent text. This is clearly a product that is not cow milk and doesn't want to be mistaken for cow milk.

danielbln 3y ago
Right below it says "Plant based Frankfurters" in a font only slightly smaller than the rest. No-where does it mention meat, there is no animal printed on it and plant-based is mentioned twice, right on the front label, once in small, once in medium letters. I mean, what do you expect? I'm all for producers not fooling customers, but compared to really egregious things you sometimes see in the US, your example doesn't strike me as deceptive at all.
- treis 3y ago
  >No-where does it mention meat It's literally called "meat and cheese co". You have to look above the branded and bold FIELD ROAST to see that it's a "plant based meat and cheese co". You've gone from: >Vegan products enjoy a healthy markup, and vegan stuff sells nicely. No producer is relegating the fact that their product is vegan to some fine print To quibbling about whether clearly secondary text counts as "fine print". It's not an honest argument. To further illustrate, I never said "fine print". I said "small text". You're trying to shift my goal posts in order to find some fig leaf to be right.
  - danielbln 3y ago
    I'm not quibbling, and disagree with the notion that I'm doing dishonest discourse. I merely disagree with you that the package as you have linked it is deceptive, and that it is in my opinion not in need of further regulation. What does an appropriate packaging for a plant based sausage look like to you?
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    - treis 3y ago
      >disagree with the notion that I'm doing dishonest discourse. I merely disagree with you that the package as you have linked it is deceptive Nah, the chain was: Me: They mimick meat products as closely as they can and relegate the vegetarian part to the small text You: Vegan products enjoy a healthy markup, and vegan stuff sells nicely. No producer is relegating the fact that their product is vegan to some fine print in the hopes to trick someone trying to buy animal meat Anyone engaging in honest debate would look at the package I linked and see that it doesn't look like anything you describe. They also wouldn't say "No-where does it mention meat" and then completely ignore the fact that "meat and cheese co" is on the package when pointed out.

by treis 3y ago

danielbln 3y ago

Right below it says "Plant based Frankfurters" in a font only slightly smaller than the rest. No-where does it mention meat, there is no animal printed on it and plant-based is mentioned twice, right on the front label, once in small, once in medium letters. I mean, what do you expect? I'm all for producers not fooling customers, but compared to really egregious things you sometimes see in the US, your example doesn't strike me as deceptive at all.

treis 3y ago
>No-where does it mention meat It's literally called "meat and cheese co". You have to look above the branded and bold FIELD ROAST to see that it's a "plant based meat and cheese co". You've gone from: >Vegan products enjoy a healthy markup, and vegan stuff sells nicely. No producer is relegating the fact that their product is vegan to some fine print To quibbling about whether clearly secondary text counts as "fine print". It's not an honest argument. To further illustrate, I never said "fine print". I said "small text". You're trying to shift my goal posts in order to find some fig leaf to be right.
- danielbln 3y ago
  I'm not quibbling, and disagree with the notion that I'm doing dishonest discourse. I merely disagree with you that the package as you have linked it is deceptive, and that it is in my opinion not in need of further regulation. What does an appropriate packaging for a plant based sausage look like to you?
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  - treis 3y ago
    >disagree with the notion that I'm doing dishonest discourse. I merely disagree with you that the package as you have linked it is deceptive Nah, the chain was: Me: They mimick meat products as closely as they can and relegate the vegetarian part to the small text You: Vegan products enjoy a healthy markup, and vegan stuff sells nicely. No producer is relegating the fact that their product is vegan to some fine print in the hopes to trick someone trying to buy animal meat Anyone engaging in honest debate would look at the package I linked and see that it doesn't look like anything you describe. They also wouldn't say "No-where does it mention meat" and then completely ignore the fact that "meat and cheese co" is on the package when pointed out.