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My family has even introduced new words for some of these meatless products such as facon for the plant-based bacon, soysage for the plant-based sausage, and no

My family has even introduced new words for some of these meatless products such as facon for the plant-based bacon, soysage for the plant-based sausage, and not dogs for the plant-based hot dogs. We've been eating these products for decades, along with the "traditional" vegetarian proteins. Meanwhile, hamburgers aren't burgers made from ham, and milk is a word used to describe a liquid available from several animal and plant sources. People are losing their minds over trivial nonsense. It's the phenomenon of our time.

ravenstine 3y ago
Many people don't question why we have words for things, and speak as if there's some word-particle or word-god that determined what all words mean, as opposed to words having uses that grow and evolve as humans grow and evolve. There will always be that form of concrete thinking, but I think the sort of rote-style learning in American schools is in part responsible for otherwise intelligent individuals believing that American cheese is a lie because "it's not cultured therefor it's not cheese!" Perhaps I don't care enough either way. Even if the metaphysics of language different such that words could only ever have one very specific immutable meaning, I can't imaging caring enough that I would object to something being referred to as "oat milk."
- OkayPhysicist 3y ago
  To be fair, American "cheese" isn't legally able to sold as "cheese" in America. That's a fun enough piece of trivia that it gets shared a lot. There is something to be said for basic truth in advertising law, though. There is a fundamental difference in quality between what meets the requirements for "ice cream", "frozen dairy dessert", and "frozen dessert".
triceratops 3y ago
> Meanwhile, hamburgers aren't burgers made from ham Right? Who wouldn't go for some city-raised[1] pork? (A clarification, to reduce confusion for readers not well-acquainted with Western meat dishes: Hamburgers are named after the city of Hamburg, and are always made from beef.) 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgher_(social_class) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgher_(social_class)

ravenstine 3y ago

Many people don't question why we have words for things, and speak as if there's some word-particle or word-god that determined what all words mean, as opposed to words having uses that grow and evolve as humans grow and evolve. There will always be that form of concrete thinking, but I think the sort of rote-style learning in American schools is in part responsible for otherwise intelligent individuals believing that American cheese is a lie because "it's not cultured therefor it's not cheese!" Perhaps I don't care enough either way. Even if the metaphysics of language different such that words could only ever have one very specific immutable meaning, I can't imaging caring enough that I would object to something being referred to as "oat milk."

OkayPhysicist 3y ago
To be fair, American "cheese" isn't legally able to sold as "cheese" in America. That's a fun enough piece of trivia that it gets shared a lot. There is something to be said for basic truth in advertising law, though. There is a fundamental difference in quality between what meets the requirements for "ice cream", "frozen dairy dessert", and "frozen dessert".

triceratops 3y ago

> Meanwhile, hamburgers aren't burgers made from ham Right? Who wouldn't go for some city-raised[1] pork? (A clarification, to reduce confusion for readers not well-acquainted with Western meat dishes: Hamburgers are named after the city of Hamburg, and are always made from beef.) 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgher_(social_class) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgher_(social_class)