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Why do soldiers need to wear green cammo uniforms indoors in meeting rooms?

by FirmwareBurner 3y ago

Loughla 3y ago
Consistency and uniforms? Uniform dress is kind of a keystone for military service.
- tw1984 3y ago
  let me translate that - they get asked to do all kinds of useless things so they can always obey the commands given.
  - tivert 3y ago
    > let me translate that - they get asked to do all kinds of useless things so they can always obey the commands given. IMHO, that's a pretty disrespectful take that seems to be founded on stereotypes. The real reason is probably more along the lines of: they work for a big organization, big organizations force "standards" decisions on the grunts that don't make sense in a lot of contexts, and for a multitude of reasons there's no will to change them once made.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  AFAIk, the military also has non-camo uniforms.
  - davethedevguy 3y ago
    I can't speak for the US, but in my country that was sometimes the case, but not always. I was an engineer and had 'non-camo' uniform, and only wore camo in the field or on exercise. People who's job was primarily 'in the field' though (e.g. the Army) didn't have that, and would wear camo as their uniform 90% of the time (the exception was formal dress uniform for parades etc.)
  - dingaling 3y ago
    BDUs are working dress, comfortable and practical and easy to maintain. Shirts and ties and pressed trousers look sharp at the start of the day but are much less practical and look creased and worn by the end of a shift.
cjbgkagh 3y ago
I assume someone connected has the supply contract and thought it would be a great idea if their clothes were worn at all times. Like why on earth are sailors dressed in blue camouflage. I think it also helps hide how out of shape many of them have gotten which would be more obvious if they still wore khakis.
- dr_orpheus 3y ago
  In Mary Roach's book "Grunt" she talks about some of the poor decisions that went in to uniforms and how the style influences come full circle. Military camo influences fashion designers which influence commanders picking uniforms for troops. This article [0] talks about some portions of the book and the camo: 'In the early 2000s the Army attempted to come up with a Unified Field Theory, not for physics but for camouflage uniforms: they wanted one pattern that would hide troops in the woods, city streets and the desert. The uniform designers and engineers came up with 13 patterns for testing. But before the results were in, a general went ahead and picked a pattern—one that was not even among the 13 agreed-on contenders. “The new camouflage performed so poorly in Afghanistan that in 2009,” Roach notes, “the Army spent $3.4 million developing a new and safer pattern for troops deployed there.” Meanwhile the Navy currently wears blue camouflage as its working uniform. “I asked a Navy commander about the rationale,” Roach recounts. “He looked down at his trousers and sighed. ‘That's so no one can see you if you fall overboard.'”' [0] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/author-mary-roach-looks-at-the-curious-science-of-the-military/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/author-mary-roach...
Phrenzy 3y ago
Once upon a time, I used to support these very aircraft. I worked as a technician on the flightline. As an airman, you show up to work every day in a uniform. For us, it was either a set of camo BDUs or 'blues.' No one I knew that I worked with preferred blues over BDUs. One would wear blues only if absolutely required.

Why do soldiers need to wear green cammo uniforms indoors in meeting rooms?

Loughla 3y ago

Consistency and uniforms? Uniform dress is kind of a keystone for military service.

tw1984 3y ago
let me translate that - they get asked to do all kinds of useless things so they can always obey the commands given.
- tivert 3y ago
  > let me translate that - they get asked to do all kinds of useless things so they can always obey the commands given. IMHO, that's a pretty disrespectful take that seems to be founded on stereotypes. The real reason is probably more along the lines of: they work for a big organization, big organizations force "standards" decisions on the grunts that don't make sense in a lot of contexts, and for a multitude of reasons there's no will to change them once made.
FirmwareBurner 3y ago
AFAIk, the military also has non-camo uniforms.
- davethedevguy 3y ago
  I can't speak for the US, but in my country that was sometimes the case, but not always. I was an engineer and had 'non-camo' uniform, and only wore camo in the field or on exercise. People who's job was primarily 'in the field' though (e.g. the Army) didn't have that, and would wear camo as their uniform 90% of the time (the exception was formal dress uniform for parades etc.)
- dingaling 3y ago
  BDUs are working dress, comfortable and practical and easy to maintain. Shirts and ties and pressed trousers look sharp at the start of the day but are much less practical and look creased and worn by the end of a shift.

cjbgkagh 3y ago

I assume someone connected has the supply contract and thought it would be a great idea if their clothes were worn at all times. Like why on earth are sailors dressed in blue camouflage. I think it also helps hide how out of shape many of them have gotten which would be more obvious if they still wore khakis.

dr_orpheus 3y ago
In Mary Roach's book "Grunt" she talks about some of the poor decisions that went in to uniforms and how the style influences come full circle. Military camo influences fashion designers which influence commanders picking uniforms for troops. This article [0] talks about some portions of the book and the camo: 'In the early 2000s the Army attempted to come up with a Unified Field Theory, not for physics but for camouflage uniforms: they wanted one pattern that would hide troops in the woods, city streets and the desert. The uniform designers and engineers came up with 13 patterns for testing. But before the results were in, a general went ahead and picked a pattern—one that was not even among the 13 agreed-on contenders. “The new camouflage performed so poorly in Afghanistan that in 2009,” Roach notes, “the Army spent $3.4 million developing a new and safer pattern for troops deployed there.” Meanwhile the Navy currently wears blue camouflage as its working uniform. “I asked a Navy commander about the rationale,” Roach recounts. “He looked down at his trousers and sighed. ‘That's so no one can see you if you fall overboard.'”' [0] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/author-mary-roach-looks-at-the-curious-science-of-the-military/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/author-mary-roach...

Phrenzy 3y ago

Once upon a time, I used to support these very aircraft. I worked as a technician on the flightline. As an airman, you show up to work every day in a uniform. For us, it was either a set of camo BDUs or 'blues.' No one I knew that I worked with preferred blues over BDUs. One would wear blues only if absolutely required.