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I would certainly accept this vulnerability in order to have Notepad++ on Linux. Nothing like it.

by jackfoxy 3y ago

rpgwaiter 3y ago
What does nppp give you that vscode, sublime, or the gnome editor doesn't?
- gmiller123456 3y ago
  Simplicity. I use VSCode when working on a project, but if I just need to edit a single file I use NPPP.
  - TylerE 3y ago
    What’s wrong with doing that in sublime? If you don’t install a bunch of kids it’s very minimal.
    - jay_kyburz 3y ago
      Sublime pissed a lot of people off when they started nagging v3 user to upgrade to v4, then when you do, they nag you to pay again. I also got tired of how the package manager worked. Whenever I was setting up a new install, I could never remember what combination of packages I needed to install to get everything to work how it used to.
      - dralley 3y ago
        Just copy the configuration files and extensions out of the directory where they're installed. Or use sync functionality.
        prepend 3y ago
        N++ is just simpler. There are ways to avoid sublime’s annoyances. But N++ doesn’t annoy. Although if you have sublime installed and running the way you like it, you probably don’t need N++.
      - kcartlidge 3y ago
        > I also got tired of how the package manager worked. Whenever I was setting up a new install, I could never remember what combination of packages I needed to install to get everything to work how it used to. This is one of the things VS Code does quite well. Stick a recommended extentions file in your repo root and anyone who pulls it gets automatically offered the chance to install them. (View -> Command Palette -> search for "Recommended Extensions")
- crosvenir 3y ago
  Vscode? Near instant start times. Macros? Standard column select with just alt. Sublime? Honestly I can't remember as it's been a while since i used it. Gedit? 100s ROM standard text operations such as line trims, case replacement, line ending replacement, find in files, replace in files, replace via regex in files, split window of same file, auto save non-saved files, show whitespace from tool bar, opening of very large files quickly, code folding, line numbers shown by default, probably wouldn't print errors when executed in the background on a fresh or updated install for the last 10 years necessitating the redirecting of all output streams thereby hiding possible issues. And I actually kinda like gedit... Waiting for the "if we'd all just use emacs" folks to show up.
  - jay_kyburz 3y ago
    Try Kate. Its great!
  - kjs3 3y ago
    Vi, you despicable emacs heretic.
- jackfoxy 3y ago
  VsCode, or Codium, which is what I use, does not have a macro facility. That for me is the killer feature of Notepad++. I have no experience with the other editors, but I suspect they also have no macro capability, or if they do it doesn't measure up.
  - vlovich123 3y ago
    Not even through extensions? https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=EXCEEDSYSTEM.vscode-macros https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=EXCEEDSY...
  - billti 3y ago
    I find the Vim extension for VS Code has macro support that is good enough for most of my use cases (if you’re a fan of Vim key bindings - obviously). https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim/blob/master/ROADMAP.md#repeating-commands https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim/blob/master/ROADMAP.md#repe...
  - westurner 3y ago
    - Microsoft/vscode#4490: "Macro recording" (2016-) https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/4490 https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/4490 It looks like there are a number of vscode extensions for recording macros: - https://www.google.com/search?q=vscode+macro+recorder https://www.google.com/search?q=vscode+macro+recorder - https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/search?term=Macro&target=VSCode&category=All%20categories&sortBy=Relevance https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/search?term=Macro&targe... - the macro-commander README explains its JSON-based macro language. YAML might be easier to maintain than JSON. https://github.com/jeff-hykin/macro-commander#what-are-some-examples https://github.com/jeff-hykin/macro-commander#what-are-some-... For teams with multiple editors, you can specify workflow automation scripts with shell scripts, or e.g. hubflow, or CI container/cmd YAML, and/or a pre-commit.yml instead of with an IDE-specific tool. Isn't there native real-time collaboration functionality in vscode/vscodium that would be useful for a native macro recording feature? (Edit) Live Share can't be installed in vscodium. https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/issues/128 https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/issues/128 Support for jupyter-collaboration Y.js CRDT RTC could be added to vscode-jupyter and/or a more generic extension: "Support for real-time collaboration in the extension?" https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-jupyter/discussions/12933 https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-jupyter/discussions/1293... jupyterlab/jupyter-collaboration: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyter-collaboration https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyter-collaboration And then vscode sessions and thus macros could be recorded from ide events and appended to a jupyter_ydoc: https://github.com/jupyter-server/jupyter_ydoc https://github.com/jupyter-server/jupyter_ydoc
29athrowaway 3y ago
notepadqq
- jackfoxy 3y ago
  Took a look at it and rejected it pretty much out of hand...don't remember why, but IIRC it doesn't fully implement macros among other things.
- justin_oaks 3y ago
  I use notepadqq. It does most things I use Notepad++ for in Windows. That said, I'll switch to Vim for serious text manipulation or an IDE for coding.
armchairhacker 3y ago
Maybe there are power features or something which makes Notepad++ better, but for my usage Kate (https://kate-editor.org/ https://kate-editor.org/) fits the same niche. Fast startup and good UI for quick edits on individual files. But it has enough features to technically be an IDE (including LSP integration apparently)
- pyeri 3y ago
  Also don't forget geany! It is pretty much the Notepad++ of Linux Desktop world I think.
- kcartlidge 3y ago
  Kate renders nicely, performs fluidly, opens fast, and never lets you down. I use Notepad++ on Windows as it's work-approved, but Kate where I can.
eru 3y ago
What about Wine?
pyeri 3y ago
> In this case, there are 4 bugs. One causes N++ to write 1 to 3 bytes past the end of a buffer, the other bugs cause N++ to read some bytes past the end of heap objects, even the researchers aren't sure how they could be exploited. Honestly, if you go down to the C level of buffers and stack overflows, I think most modern day GUI apps will come up with some bug or other. It's almost like torturing the data to come up with the conclusion you want, EVENTUALLY it is bound to yield you something!

I would certainly accept this vulnerability in order to have Notepad++ on Linux. Nothing like it.

rpgwaiter 3y ago

What does nppp give you that vscode, sublime, or the gnome editor doesn't?

gmiller123456 3y ago
Simplicity. I use VSCode when working on a project, but if I just need to edit a single file I use NPPP.
- TylerE 3y ago
  What’s wrong with doing that in sublime? If you don’t install a bunch of kids it’s very minimal.
  - jay_kyburz 3y ago
    Sublime pissed a lot of people off when they started nagging v3 user to upgrade to v4, then when you do, they nag you to pay again. I also got tired of how the package manager worked. Whenever I was setting up a new install, I could never remember what combination of packages I needed to install to get everything to work how it used to.
    - dralley 3y ago
      Just copy the configuration files and extensions out of the directory where they're installed. Or use sync functionality.
      - prepend 3y ago
        N++ is just simpler. There are ways to avoid sublime’s annoyances. But N++ doesn’t annoy. Although if you have sublime installed and running the way you like it, you probably don’t need N++.
    - kcartlidge 3y ago
      > I also got tired of how the package manager worked. Whenever I was setting up a new install, I could never remember what combination of packages I needed to install to get everything to work how it used to. This is one of the things VS Code does quite well. Stick a recommended extentions file in your repo root and anyone who pulls it gets automatically offered the chance to install them. (View -> Command Palette -> search for "Recommended Extensions")
crosvenir 3y ago
Vscode? Near instant start times. Macros? Standard column select with just alt. Sublime? Honestly I can't remember as it's been a while since i used it. Gedit? 100s ROM standard text operations such as line trims, case replacement, line ending replacement, find in files, replace in files, replace via regex in files, split window of same file, auto save non-saved files, show whitespace from tool bar, opening of very large files quickly, code folding, line numbers shown by default, probably wouldn't print errors when executed in the background on a fresh or updated install for the last 10 years necessitating the redirecting of all output streams thereby hiding possible issues. And I actually kinda like gedit... Waiting for the "if we'd all just use emacs" folks to show up.
- jay_kyburz 3y ago
  Try Kate. Its great!
- kjs3 3y ago
  Vi, you despicable emacs heretic.
jackfoxy 3y ago
VsCode, or Codium, which is what I use, does not have a macro facility. That for me is the killer feature of Notepad++. I have no experience with the other editors, but I suspect they also have no macro capability, or if they do it doesn't measure up.
- vlovich123 3y ago
  Not even through extensions? https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=EXCEEDSYSTEM.vscode-macros https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=EXCEEDSY...
- billti 3y ago
  I find the Vim extension for VS Code has macro support that is good enough for most of my use cases (if you’re a fan of Vim key bindings - obviously). https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim/blob/master/ROADMAP.md#repeating-commands https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim/blob/master/ROADMAP.md#repe...
- westurner 3y ago
  - Microsoft/vscode#4490: "Macro recording" (2016-) https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/4490 https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/4490 It looks like there are a number of vscode extensions for recording macros: - https://www.google.com/search?q=vscode+macro+recorder https://www.google.com/search?q=vscode+macro+recorder - https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/search?term=Macro&target=VSCode&category=All%20categories&sortBy=Relevance https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/search?term=Macro&targe... - the macro-commander README explains its JSON-based macro language. YAML might be easier to maintain than JSON. https://github.com/jeff-hykin/macro-commander#what-are-some-examples https://github.com/jeff-hykin/macro-commander#what-are-some-... For teams with multiple editors, you can specify workflow automation scripts with shell scripts, or e.g. hubflow, or CI container/cmd YAML, and/or a pre-commit.yml instead of with an IDE-specific tool. Isn't there native real-time collaboration functionality in vscode/vscodium that would be useful for a native macro recording feature? (Edit) Live Share can't be installed in vscodium. https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/issues/128 https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/issues/128 Support for jupyter-collaboration Y.js CRDT RTC could be added to vscode-jupyter and/or a more generic extension: "Support for real-time collaboration in the extension?" https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-jupyter/discussions/12933 https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-jupyter/discussions/1293... jupyterlab/jupyter-collaboration: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyter-collaboration https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyter-collaboration And then vscode sessions and thus macros could be recorded from ide events and appended to a jupyter_ydoc: https://github.com/jupyter-server/jupyter_ydoc https://github.com/jupyter-server/jupyter_ydoc

29athrowaway 3y ago

notepadqq

jackfoxy 3y ago
Took a look at it and rejected it pretty much out of hand...don't remember why, but IIRC it doesn't fully implement macros among other things.
justin_oaks 3y ago
I use notepadqq. It does most things I use Notepad++ for in Windows. That said, I'll switch to Vim for serious text manipulation or an IDE for coding.

armchairhacker 3y ago

Maybe there are power features or something which makes Notepad++ better, but for my usage Kate (https://kate-editor.org/ https://kate-editor.org/) fits the same niche. Fast startup and good UI for quick edits on individual files. But it has enough features to technically be an IDE (including LSP integration apparently)

pyeri 3y ago
Also don't forget geany! It is pretty much the Notepad++ of Linux Desktop world I think.
kcartlidge 3y ago
Kate renders nicely, performs fluidly, opens fast, and never lets you down. I use Notepad++ on Windows as it's work-approved, but Kate where I can.

eru 3y ago

What about Wine?

pyeri 3y ago

> In this case, there are 4 bugs. One causes N++ to write 1 to 3 bytes past the end of a buffer, the other bugs cause N++ to read some bytes past the end of heap objects, even the researchers aren't sure how they could be exploited. Honestly, if you go down to the C level of buffers and stack overflows, I think most modern day GUI apps will come up with some bug or other. It's almost like torturing the data to come up with the conclusion you want, EVENTUALLY it is bound to yield you something!