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>You and I are using words without sound, are we not? Nope! You're sounding the words out in your head (or out loud) when you read it.

lisper 3y ago
Not necessarily. Deaf people can read, even ones who are deaf from birth.
- chimineycricket 3y ago
  Exceptions don't make the rule. Generally, people sound words out. Even if the language doesn't have an alphabet of sounds like Mandarin.
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  - lisper 3y ago
    > Generally, people sound words out. That's how hearing people learn to read. But even then it does not follow that they continue to sound words out or play back the audio in their head after they become proficient. In fact, one of the hallmarks of a proficient reader vs a beginner is that the former no longer needs to sound words out. They can just look at a word and recognize it more or less immediately.
  - thret 3y ago
    I think sounding words out would be the exception. Do you sound words out when you read code? I'm having trouble imagining that.
    - avar 3y ago
      To chime in, I don't, but yes, it's my understanding that for many people the "voice in their head" instead metaphorical at all. I was always under the impression that the internal narration used in visual media (e.g. the Dexter opening sequence comes to mind [1]) was taking a dramatic license, but it's apparently some people's lived experience. 1. https://youtu.be/d3_znBNPjl4?si=N5zfhtobEVtc5O1X https://youtu.be/d3_znBNPjl4?si=N5zfhtobEVtc5O1X
    - chimineycricket 3y ago
      I think code is a different situation entirely. The whales are communicating not coding anyway.
  - fouc 3y ago
    It's definitely not "generally", it's not even a supermajority. > Some estimates suggest that as much as 50% or more of the population subvocalizes when reading, especially during their early years of reading development. However, with practice and improved reading skills, many individuals can reduce the extent of subvocalization and increase their reading speed.
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mostlylurks 3y ago
I am not. Not everyone subvocalizes, and for some people, like myself, an inner monologue narrating what you read is voluntary. I might choose to have the latter if I'm reading a book for enjoyment, but if I'm just reading comments online, I would prefer not to limit my reading speed by doing things like that.

lisper 3y ago

Not necessarily. Deaf people can read, even ones who are deaf from birth.

chimineycricket 3y ago
Exceptions don't make the rule. Generally, people sound words out. Even if the language doesn't have an alphabet of sounds like Mandarin.
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- lisper 3y ago
  > Generally, people sound words out. That's how hearing people learn to read. But even then it does not follow that they continue to sound words out or play back the audio in their head after they become proficient. In fact, one of the hallmarks of a proficient reader vs a beginner is that the former no longer needs to sound words out. They can just look at a word and recognize it more or less immediately.
- thret 3y ago
  I think sounding words out would be the exception. Do you sound words out when you read code? I'm having trouble imagining that.
  - avar 3y ago
    To chime in, I don't, but yes, it's my understanding that for many people the "voice in their head" instead metaphorical at all. I was always under the impression that the internal narration used in visual media (e.g. the Dexter opening sequence comes to mind [1]) was taking a dramatic license, but it's apparently some people's lived experience. 1. https://youtu.be/d3_znBNPjl4?si=N5zfhtobEVtc5O1X https://youtu.be/d3_znBNPjl4?si=N5zfhtobEVtc5O1X
  - chimineycricket 3y ago
    I think code is a different situation entirely. The whales are communicating not coding anyway.
- fouc 3y ago
  It's definitely not "generally", it's not even a supermajority. > Some estimates suggest that as much as 50% or more of the population subvocalizes when reading, especially during their early years of reading development. However, with practice and improved reading skills, many individuals can reduce the extent of subvocalization and increase their reading speed.

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mostlylurks 3y ago

I am not. Not everyone subvocalizes, and for some people, like myself, an inner monologue narrating what you read is voluntary. I might choose to have the latter if I'm reading a book for enjoyment, but if I'm just reading comments online, I would prefer not to limit my reading speed by doing things like that.