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"also don't ever give someone an unsolicited code review on Twitter. It's rude." I'd personally welcome people's free code review, on any platform, when clearl
by keyle 3y ago
"also don't ever give someone an unsolicited code review on Twitter. It's rude."
I'd personally welcome people's free code review, on any platform, when clearly the code "wasn't perfect". I don't see why someone would take offence from free advice, unless it was condescending. You're always free to ignore it. Eitherway, you won't excel in any topic without feedback.
- jamesgreenleaf 3y agoThe irony of "don't give people unsolicited advice" always gets me.
- hn72774 3y agoYou shouldn't let those things get to you /s
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- maxverse 3y agoI disagree. Unsolicited feedback lacks context and might not be intended to help the developer. Feedback to someone you don't know should be offered only if they're explicitly asking for it.
- Buttons840 3y agoI think there are platforms for both. If you don't want feed back you can publish a blog that doesn't allow comments. If you publish on social media you are inviting social input. Sometimes people want the participation and attention that exists on social media without the reason that attention exists. Of course, advice should always be kind. And allow people to ignore you if they want; this includes not "piling-on" and restating a criticism that has been said by others.
- whateveracct 3y agoIt's not that hard to ignore it entirely or read the feedback, disagree, and disregard. People are such wimps about this stuff nowadays.
- appleflaxen 3y agoYou disagree that keyle wants feedback? That's literally all they said. How can you disagree about what one individual says they themselves want?
- Loocid 3y agoThere is more than just their first sentence.
- oneshtein 3y agoWhy you providing your feedback here? Can you self-analyse and report, please.
- layer8 3y agoFYI, you’ve just given feedback to someone you don’t know and who didn’t explicitly ask for it.
- tracerbulletx 3y agoPeople on Twitter just want to broadcast their opinion and get affirmation, they don't react well to attempts at dialog. It's all just attacks and counter attacks these days.
- kordlessagain 3y agoJust X it.
- dools 3y agoI think the X team might have been following this advice with a little too much gusto during the rebranding.
- pcthrowaway 3y agoI think the point is that it's on Twitter. Sending an email directly may be welcome. Commenting on PR (if open source) is also probably welcome in most circumstances. It's the difference between pointing at an ESL speaker and saying they talk funny in a group social situation, versus pulling them aside and letting them know they're using some words wrong. Some people are OK with being publicly called out, but more people will feel like they're being given constructive feedback rather than publicly called out if you talk to them directly
- ReactiveJelly 3y agoBut if you welcome it, it's not unsolicited
- dools 3y agoNot necessarily. I might receive an unsolicited offer to have my windows washed by a guy at the lights. I welcome it because my windscreen is dirty, and I give him $5.
- langsoul-com 3y agoIf you welcome it, then it's no longer unsolicited, so there's no problem.
- lelanthran 3y ago> But if you welcome it, it's not unsolicited It's still unsolicited, just welcomed.
- xeonmc 3y ago"An unsolicited advice, to be sure, but a welcome one."
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- AndrewPGameDev 3y agoSuppose you were 60 years old with 3 kids who live out of the house. You like to go golfing on the weekends, and have no intentions of ever going pro. This weekend, you get to the golf course to see a series of robots have been installed on the course. When you swing, they always give constructive, helpful feedback to try to improve your golf swing. You cannot turn the robots advice off. I would feel horribly patronized in this scenario. I don't go golfing to get better at it, I go golfing to relax. Similarly someone can program and not necessarily want to be better at it. It depends on their goals and desires. Giving someone advice before asking means you have to guess at what their goal even is. In many contexts (work) this is fine but in general it is not. To answer your question, the reason why someone might reasonably take offense to unsolicited advice is that unsolicited advice is inherently condescending because it implies that the advisor knows more about the topic than the advisee. It also implies that the advisor knows the advisees skill level and goals. It's kinda insulting, and in another way it's almost controlling as the advisor reframes the discussion around "being good at X". I don't want to be good at golf, I want to enjoy my time golfing.
- mosselman 3y agoI completely don’t agree about your analysis of what givers of advice might feel like. Some people just want to share what little they know in the hopes that others return the favour. Let’s say you are installing bike seats for your kid, but you attach it in a way that 3 minutes into the ride your child would fall off. A neighbour sees this and comes over, unasked, to tell you you did the straps wrong. Are you now insulted or glad someone taught you something important? In general the problem about people who feel insulted about things is that it is their own interpretation. Insult lives with yourself. You can choose not to be. Why would you put so much power into other people’s hands? Don’t get me wrong, I can get insulted, so it is a constant work in progress. I feel like in your story instead of robots, people would be more like receiving unsolicited advice. A machine is a machine. If you get offended by advice from machines you have totally different problems.
- seaotta 3y ago[dead]