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> Show me one instance America detaining someone for a family member’s political dissidence? Nah we're not playing your game of restricting this to family mem
by thereare5lights 3y ago
> Show me one instance America detaining someone for a family member’s political dissidence?
Nah we're not playing your game of restricting this to family members for political speech.
Your original point was to address
> Amen. I've never understood why people fear speculated Chinese and Russian spying, while they never seem to recall the US spying that is well documented and confirmed.
https://ccrjustice.org/files/ghost-detention.pdf https://ccrjustice.org/files/ghost-detention.pdf
> In some cases, family members – including young
children – of “ghost detainees” have been detained themselves, and
held in CIA secret sites, including 9 and 7 year old boys.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_detainee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_detainee
- ethanbond 3y ago"Nah we're not playing your game of [responding to the point you actually made]" The question is why US spying is treated differently than Chinese and Russian. The answer is that China and Russia behave dramatically differently than the US does. I never made any claim as to the US being some flawless benevolent entity, but I made a clear argument (that you've not refuted) as to why most of the global community views them differently.
- thereare5lights 3y ago> The answer is that China and Russia behave dramatically differently than the US does. yes. they are open about what they do whereas we do it covertly > why most of the global community views them differently. citation needed "most of the global community" you mean the west, which is not even a majority of the global community. but even if it was a majority, again, because we do it covertly, we hide it and everyone only sees the good things until someone like snowden comes along and leaks our dirty laundry.