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Amex used to book out the first few rows of every Concorde flight. You might indeed be surprised. Of course it was quite a while ago.

wkat4242 3y ago
Yeah back then business class was still a thing for most business travelers also. These days you have to be practically C-level to get it :P But I think with the increased scrutiny on carbon emissions this will not fly anymore (pun intended). See how celebs are being criticised for using their private jets for example. This will only get worse. Then using a plane that emits much more carbon for the same distance (even though it's much faster) will definitely make it harder to justify.
- RecycledEle 3y ago
  I do not see carbon emissions limiting air travel. Those jokers still use leaded gas, FFS. There are 2 sets of rules: The laws that tell me I can not get to work in my 23-year-old pickup truck, and those rules do not apply to people who can fly private jets. Those people fly private jumbo jets to environmental conferences. I know this will be an unpopular opinion on HN, but what if we banned all civilian air travel (I mean ALL civilian air travel) until they can prove they meet the emissions standards and fuel economy standards my 23 year old pickup has to meet to pass emissions testing every year.
  - _moof 3y ago
    Jets (and turboprops) don't use leaded fuel, they use kerosene. You're thinking of light aircraft with reciprocating engines.
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    Jets actually have to pass emissions testing quite regularly as part of their strict maintenance regime. They are maintained to a standard even the most hardcore car enthusiast can't shake a stick at. They emit a lot of CO2 because they need a lot of energy. But they burn pretty clean, the age of jets trailing large black trails are gone. The only planes using leaded are general aviation light aircraft that still use AVGAS 100LL. Jets use only Jet A-1 which is unleaded kerosine (though technically they can burn almost anything which is one of the cool things of jets but of course for reliability and safety this is not done in aircraft). The M1 Abrams tank touts this as a major advantage though, if you're in a pinch you can pour pretty much anything that burns in the tank. Just a shitload of it :)

wkat4242 3y ago

Yeah back then business class was still a thing for most business travelers also. These days you have to be practically C-level to get it :P But I think with the increased scrutiny on carbon emissions this will not fly anymore (pun intended). See how celebs are being criticised for using their private jets for example. This will only get worse. Then using a plane that emits much more carbon for the same distance (even though it's much faster) will definitely make it harder to justify.

RecycledEle 3y ago
I do not see carbon emissions limiting air travel. Those jokers still use leaded gas, FFS. There are 2 sets of rules: The laws that tell me I can not get to work in my 23-year-old pickup truck, and those rules do not apply to people who can fly private jets. Those people fly private jumbo jets to environmental conferences. I know this will be an unpopular opinion on HN, but what if we banned all civilian air travel (I mean ALL civilian air travel) until they can prove they meet the emissions standards and fuel economy standards my 23 year old pickup has to meet to pass emissions testing every year.
- _moof 3y ago
  Jets (and turboprops) don't use leaded fuel, they use kerosene. You're thinking of light aircraft with reciprocating engines.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  Jets actually have to pass emissions testing quite regularly as part of their strict maintenance regime. They are maintained to a standard even the most hardcore car enthusiast can't shake a stick at. They emit a lot of CO2 because they need a lot of energy. But they burn pretty clean, the age of jets trailing large black trails are gone. The only planes using leaded are general aviation light aircraft that still use AVGAS 100LL. Jets use only Jet A-1 which is unleaded kerosine (though technically they can burn almost anything which is one of the cool things of jets but of course for reliability and safety this is not done in aircraft). The M1 Abrams tank touts this as a major advantage though, if you're in a pinch you can pour pretty much anything that burns in the tank. Just a shitload of it :)