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>You can pry vim from my cold dead hands. I won't need to, you're already giving yourself carpal tunnel with all the :wQ! INSERT-MODE :wmkGDonzn zz CWSFD, thes

>You can pry vim from my cold dead hands. I won't need to, you're already giving yourself carpal tunnel with all the :wQ! INSERT-MODE :wmkGDonzn zz CWSFD, these hands are already marked for death.

em-bee 3y ago
actually the opposite is true. esc-meta-alt-ctrl-shift[0] is more likely to give you carpal tunnel, than vi where you switch modes and then type commands with single keys instead of twisted key combos. i actually get annoyed at how many ctrl-key combos vim has. [0] i don't know if emacs is that bad, but that's a classic pun that just fit here.
- ohgodplsno 3y ago
  To be fair, I have never advocated for Emacs either. Nano for quick edits, proper IDEs for anything else.
  - em-bee 3y ago
    every editing command in nano is either ctrl-key or alt-key. vi/vim is the only editor that i am aware of that doesn't make me stretch my fingers across the keyboard.
- aeonik 3y ago
  I used vim for 10 years (not really an advanced user, but comfortable with it), and I just learned Emacs for the last 6 months... I am now completely confused by the Emacs vs Vim religious war. The two programs excel at completely different layers of productivity. I can't think of any software that radically approaches improving your workflow like either vim or Emacs, and they are both wholly unique. I also use evil mode in Emacs and while it feels like a great match, it has some impedance mismatch in some emacs packages. It really makes me wonder if there is a deeper layer of integration that can be done here to really allow people to take the reigns off their interaction with computers.
  - em-bee 3y ago
    I am now completely confused by the Emacs vs Vim religious war i think at least half of those who keep up with the emacs vs vim war are doing it just to confuse newbies. the other half really just prefers the emacs way or the vi way. either way though you are right. they are both very distinct, and it's not one being absolutely better than the other.

>You can pry vim from my cold dead hands. I won't need to, you're already giving yourself carpal tunnel with all the :wQ! INSERT-MODE :wmkGDonzn zz CWSFD, these hands are already marked for death.

em-bee 3y ago

actually the opposite is true. esc-meta-alt-ctrl-shift[0] is more likely to give you carpal tunnel, than vi where you switch modes and then type commands with single keys instead of twisted key combos. i actually get annoyed at how many ctrl-key combos vim has. [0] i don't know if emacs is that bad, but that's a classic pun that just fit here.

ohgodplsno 3y ago
To be fair, I have never advocated for Emacs either. Nano for quick edits, proper IDEs for anything else.
- em-bee 3y ago
  every editing command in nano is either ctrl-key or alt-key. vi/vim is the only editor that i am aware of that doesn't make me stretch my fingers across the keyboard.
aeonik 3y ago
I used vim for 10 years (not really an advanced user, but comfortable with it), and I just learned Emacs for the last 6 months... I am now completely confused by the Emacs vs Vim religious war. The two programs excel at completely different layers of productivity. I can't think of any software that radically approaches improving your workflow like either vim or Emacs, and they are both wholly unique. I also use evil mode in Emacs and while it feels like a great match, it has some impedance mismatch in some emacs packages. It really makes me wonder if there is a deeper layer of integration that can be done here to really allow people to take the reigns off their interaction with computers.
- em-bee 3y ago
  I am now completely confused by the Emacs vs Vim religious war i think at least half of those who keep up with the emacs vs vim war are doing it just to confuse newbies. the other half really just prefers the emacs way or the vi way. either way though you are right. they are both very distinct, and it's not one being absolutely better than the other.