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AI booster Paul Graham complains of rise in web content that's 'AI SEO bait'

16 points by CharlesW 3y ago

gone35 3y ago
Yes. Below is the first live example of possible AI SEO bait I have seen, sent to me unbeknownst by an investor friend (visit at your own risk): https://biz.crast.net/nvidia-backed-corewave-seeks-stake-sale-at-8-billion-valuation/ https://biz.crast.net/nvidia-backed-corewave-seeks-stake-sal... The paraphrase may be done by hand but my (naïf) sense it is not. You judge. The copy goes: (Bloomberg) — Corewave, a cloud computing provider that is becoming one of the hottest startups in the artificial intelligence race, is exploring a minority stake sale that could value the company at $8, according to people with knowledge of the matter. billion or more. Case. most read from bloomberg A Corwave representative declined to comment. Nvidia Corp. for CoreWeave data centers was an early adopter of graphics chips, getting ahead of the wave rolling through the technology. [...] [...] – With assistance from Ian King. Most read from Bloomberg Businessweek ©2023 Bloomberg L.P. Source: finance.yahoo.com
skilled 3y ago
The problem is that it is already too late now. The fact that you have an API that can write text faster than a machine gun can empty its bullet belt… You don’t need all articles to be “hits”, when you are doing 1,000 per day… having 50-100 get regular clicks is already a net gain. And this is going to make it so much harder for anyone new to become a successful blogger/writer because Google can always adjust the weighting of old sites vs new sites. Why trust a new site when someone from a few years ago has the same article and is likely a much more reliable source? I myself only browse “interesting” sites so bumping into AI content isn’t something I experience but I know it’s out there and it is out there in troves. Even Google News is overrun by sites that spin the same story 24 hours a day after it breaks, and it’s not being dealt with even though Google News policy says you can’t do that.
kordlessagain 3y ago
The Internet as we know it will mostly cease to exist. It will be replaced by AI powered sites, AI powered routing, and AI powered networks. AI models combined with AI-tuned storage will eventually become intelligent proxies to the network. Run in "ensembles", some will run at the edge and won't require access to provide basic information and reference. They will act as "the Internet", for all practical purposes. More complex tasks will kick inference to larger models elsewhere on the various networks (also made of other models).
- barrysteve 3y ago
  While humans can't understand what's going on in LLM's, it would be logical to say mission critical equipment won't be replaced..
- eureka-belief 3y ago
  This seems only possible to the extent that you can cut human content creators out of the loop. At some point, the models will need to be trained on something. That something is the words of actual intelligent people who are saying things that existing models aren’t intelligent enough to write. So ultimately unless you’re content with being a consumer of the LLM regurgitation content cesspool, then you’ll just need to find those trusted intelligent people and subscribe to their content, probably via something extraordinarily simple such as RSS.
  - kordlessagain 3y ago
    I would imagine content will still be a thing, likely handled by the AI crawler I wrote. I would imagine, at some point, automated content will need to shift over to pay-for-access or publicly funded repositories. Or alternately, models trained on such repositories backed by a document storage layer.
archo 3y ago
https://archive.is/QlbgO https://archive.is/QlbgO

16 points by CharlesW 3y ago

Yes. Below is the first live example of possible AI SEO bait I have seen, sent to me unbeknownst by an investor friend (visit at your own risk): https://biz.crast.net/nvidia-backed-corewave-seeks-stake-sale-at-8-billion-valuation/ https://biz.crast.net/nvidia-backed-corewave-seeks-stake-sal... The paraphrase may be done by hand but my (naïf) sense it is not. You judge. The copy goes: (Bloomberg) — Corewave, a cloud computing provider that is becoming one of the hottest startups in the artificial intelligence race, is exploring a minority stake sale that could value the company at $8, according to people with knowledge of the matter. billion or more. Case. most read from bloomberg A Corwave representative declined to comment. Nvidia Corp. for CoreWeave data centers was an early adopter of graphics chips, getting ahead of the wave rolling through the technology. [...] [...] – With assistance from Ian King. Most read from Bloomberg Businessweek ©2023 Bloomberg L.P. Source: finance.yahoo.com

skilled 3y ago

The problem is that it is already too late now. The fact that you have an API that can write text faster than a machine gun can empty its bullet belt… You don’t need all articles to be “hits”, when you are doing 1,000 per day… having 50-100 get regular clicks is already a net gain. And this is going to make it so much harder for anyone new to become a successful blogger/writer because Google can always adjust the weighting of old sites vs new sites. Why trust a new site when someone from a few years ago has the same article and is likely a much more reliable source? I myself only browse “interesting” sites so bumping into AI content isn’t something I experience but I know it’s out there and it is out there in troves. Even Google News is overrun by sites that spin the same story 24 hours a day after it breaks, and it’s not being dealt with even though Google News policy says you can’t do that.

kordlessagain 3y ago

The Internet as we know it will mostly cease to exist. It will be replaced by AI powered sites, AI powered routing, and AI powered networks. AI models combined with AI-tuned storage will eventually become intelligent proxies to the network. Run in "ensembles", some will run at the edge and won't require access to provide basic information and reference. They will act as "the Internet", for all practical purposes. More complex tasks will kick inference to larger models elsewhere on the various networks (also made of other models).

barrysteve 3y ago
While humans can't understand what's going on in LLM's, it would be logical to say mission critical equipment won't be replaced..
eureka-belief 3y ago
This seems only possible to the extent that you can cut human content creators out of the loop. At some point, the models will need to be trained on something. That something is the words of actual intelligent people who are saying things that existing models aren’t intelligent enough to write. So ultimately unless you’re content with being a consumer of the LLM regurgitation content cesspool, then you’ll just need to find those trusted intelligent people and subscribe to their content, probably via something extraordinarily simple such as RSS.
- kordlessagain 3y ago
  I would imagine content will still be a thing, likely handled by the AI crawler I wrote. I would imagine, at some point, automated content will need to shift over to pay-for-access or publicly funded repositories. Or alternately, models trained on such repositories backed by a document storage layer.

archo 3y ago

https://archive.is/QlbgO https://archive.is/QlbgO