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But not all laws are correct or exist when one should.

by darkclouds 3y ago

beardedwizard 3y ago
So you are saying intellectual property theft should not be illegal?
- ndriscoll 3y ago
  That sounds reasonable to me. If you want protection, file for a patent and share the information. Society benefits from information being more widely available, so it doesn't make sense to specifically help protect secrets.
  - beardedwizard 3y ago
    Trade secrets are protected by law: https://www.wipo.int/tradesecrets/en/tradesecrets_faqs.html#:~:text=Trade%20secrets%20are%20intellectual%20property,limited%20group%20of%20persons%2C%20and https://www.wipo.int/tradesecrets/en/tradesecrets_faqs.html#... I guess society disagrees, and honestly this like many comments here seem to have an anti-corporate agenda behind them that is truly irrelevant to the facts at hand.
    - ndriscoll 3y ago
      My comment was specifically in reply to whether it should be illegal. Obviously trade secrets are protected by law. My response is that indeed that law is bad, and society has no reason to protect trade secrets by law, and good reason not to (other than some limited protection through contracts maybe, but that should be a civil matter). The patent system exists to incentivize sharing information through a limited time monopoly. Giving trade secrets an unlimited time monopoly protection by criminalizing someone sharing them undermines that, and means that patents will only be used for low-value ideas that are obvious/easy to independently reinvent or reverse engineer.
- darkclouds 3y ago
  Do you think the level of phosphoric acid is safe? Or is a company relying on the inability of medical experts to state the amount in a can is healthy or not. Do you think IP should come before human health?
  - beardedwizard 3y ago
    What a ridiculous assertion. Nobody forces you to drink that sweet sweet nectar. Should we legislate everything that might be unhealthy? There are plenty of nanny states who will do that for you, I don't live in one. If I want to be sure, I'll grow and make it myself. Relying on someone else to tell you always ends the same way, nanny or not. Science still can't agree on aspertame.

But not all laws are correct or exist when one should.

beardedwizard 3y ago

So you are saying intellectual property theft should not be illegal?

ndriscoll 3y ago
That sounds reasonable to me. If you want protection, file for a patent and share the information. Society benefits from information being more widely available, so it doesn't make sense to specifically help protect secrets.
- beardedwizard 3y ago
  Trade secrets are protected by law: https://www.wipo.int/tradesecrets/en/tradesecrets_faqs.html#:~:text=Trade%20secrets%20are%20intellectual%20property,limited%20group%20of%20persons%2C%20and https://www.wipo.int/tradesecrets/en/tradesecrets_faqs.html#... I guess society disagrees, and honestly this like many comments here seem to have an anti-corporate agenda behind them that is truly irrelevant to the facts at hand.
  - ndriscoll 3y ago
    My comment was specifically in reply to whether it should be illegal. Obviously trade secrets are protected by law. My response is that indeed that law is bad, and society has no reason to protect trade secrets by law, and good reason not to (other than some limited protection through contracts maybe, but that should be a civil matter). The patent system exists to incentivize sharing information through a limited time monopoly. Giving trade secrets an unlimited time monopoly protection by criminalizing someone sharing them undermines that, and means that patents will only be used for low-value ideas that are obvious/easy to independently reinvent or reverse engineer.
darkclouds 3y ago
Do you think the level of phosphoric acid is safe? Or is a company relying on the inability of medical experts to state the amount in a can is healthy or not. Do you think IP should come before human health?
- beardedwizard 3y ago
  What a ridiculous assertion. Nobody forces you to drink that sweet sweet nectar. Should we legislate everything that might be unhealthy? There are plenty of nanny states who will do that for you, I don't live in one. If I want to be sure, I'll grow and make it myself. Relying on someone else to tell you always ends the same way, nanny or not. Science still can't agree on aspertame.