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"Further, 12 random people shouldn’t be able to flout democracy." Correct, they absolutely should not—in a working democracy. The trouble is democracy isn't w

"Further, 12 random people shouldn’t be able to flout democracy." Correct, they absolutely should not—in a working democracy. The trouble is democracy isn't working when it comes to copyright, it never has. The 1886 Berne Convention was snuck in and locked in place before anyone realized what had happened. Big vested interests like Sony have had governments by the knackers ever since at everyone else's expense. The question is how does the citizenry now regain control over its governance. Put another way, rule by multinational corporate interests isn't democracy.

ta1243 3y ago
It doesn't mean "Democracy isn't working" because democracy has decided a behaviour you don't like. See for example people who think it's fine to shoplift from stores because "they're big companies" or whatever. > rule by multinational corporate interests isn't democracy. The MPAA members, including Disney, Sony, AND netflix, have a combined value of $500b. Set aside netflix and that's $300b - 1/0th the size of a company like Google. Now you might be right that large companies that rely on copyright for control are a danger, but if Sony is a big danger, what does that make Google or Apple.
- hilbert42 3y ago
  We are talking power imbalance here, copyright is only one issue, there are many others. Google, MS, Meta, Amazon and many others are exercising monopolistic power to the disadvantage of others. Put it this way, the small percentage of the population who are very wealthy shareholders and owners of these companies—powerful vested interests—have inflicted significant damage on our society by their control over government. When the rich binge on getting richer and all others get poorer as a consequence and government does nothing about it then history tells us where that usually ends. One doesn't have to be Einstein to see our society is in a damn mess and it's getting worse.
  - ta1243 3y ago
    Disney is a large company, but it's tiny compared with Alphabet - Disney is the underdog here, suing to prevent Alphabet from making money from Disney's IP.

ta1243 3y ago

It doesn't mean "Democracy isn't working" because democracy has decided a behaviour you don't like. See for example people who think it's fine to shoplift from stores because "they're big companies" or whatever. > rule by multinational corporate interests isn't democracy. The MPAA members, including Disney, Sony, AND netflix, have a combined value of $500b. Set aside netflix and that's $300b - 1/0th the size of a company like Google. Now you might be right that large companies that rely on copyright for control are a danger, but if Sony is a big danger, what does that make Google or Apple.

hilbert42 3y ago
We are talking power imbalance here, copyright is only one issue, there are many others. Google, MS, Meta, Amazon and many others are exercising monopolistic power to the disadvantage of others. Put it this way, the small percentage of the population who are very wealthy shareholders and owners of these companies—powerful vested interests—have inflicted significant damage on our society by their control over government. When the rich binge on getting richer and all others get poorer as a consequence and government does nothing about it then history tells us where that usually ends. One doesn't have to be Einstein to see our society is in a damn mess and it's getting worse.
- ta1243 3y ago
  Disney is a large company, but it's tiny compared with Alphabet - Disney is the underdog here, suing to prevent Alphabet from making money from Disney's IP.