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This seems like a weird example considering girls play softball because for some reason they can't or don't want to play baseball, not even women's baseball.. w

This seems like a weird example considering girls play softball because for some reason they can't or don't want to play baseball, not even women's baseball.. which seems like they do play baseball 'like a girl' by playing softball.

kstrauser 3y ago
It’s a different sport but in no way the “lite” version. A softball team walking onto a baseball field would probably lose. A baseball team playing softball would get annihilated. But my point is that “hit (or throw or run) like a girl” isn’t the insult it’s meant to be. My wife, a doctor, was in ROTC and graduated from Army Airborne School and has her jump wings. We taught our daughters (and sons) that “women’s work” is whatever they want it to be.
- talldatethrow 3y ago
  The problem is, if given time to practice, men would become atleast statistically average at softball yet women would have no hope in real baseball. Similar to how the women's USA national soccer team got crushed by a state level 15 year old boys team. I'm all for telling women they can work their but off to become top 3% of women, at which point they'll be better than many men at most physical activities.
  - zimpenfish 3y ago
    > Similar to how the women's USA national soccer team got crushed by a state level 15 year old boys team. Not this nonsense again. It was a low-level training match for the USWNT where they were trying out different tactics (playing players out of position, etc.) before a real match against Russia.
    - talldatethrow 3y ago
      You can phrase it however you want. If you're going to meet to try tactics, against a group of boys that don't even play like the women's Russian team, you must care somewhat. And they got crushed. End of story.
      - zimpenfish 3y ago
        > If you're going to meet to try tactics, against a group of boys that don't even play like the women's Russian team That's not the point of trying out new tactics, though - it's to see whether your players can cope with the systems and being played out of position. The opponent almost doesn't matter because when you're playing unfamiliar tactics and out of position, you're likely to lose against whoever you play. Much like getting a Bridge team to use a bidding system they've never used before - doesn't matter if it's Omar Sharif and Pierre Zimmerman, they'll probably lose against mid-level opposition AND IT MEANS NOTHING.
  - kstrauser 3y ago
    This is all completely missing the point.
    - talldatethrow 3y ago
      What is the point? That people lie to young girls telling them they can do anything a man can do, without any negative repercussions? Tell that to all the women in their late 30s on anti depressants sad they basically can't have kids and tired of getting ran through on tinder and bumble.
      - kstrauser 3y ago
        This comment is repulsive and you could have phrased your point a thousand better ways.
        talldatethrow 3y ago
        Reality is pretty repulsive. You should teach them that before guys like me do.

kstrauser 3y ago

It’s a different sport but in no way the “lite” version. A softball team walking onto a baseball field would probably lose. A baseball team playing softball would get annihilated. But my point is that “hit (or throw or run) like a girl” isn’t the insult it’s meant to be. My wife, a doctor, was in ROTC and graduated from Army Airborne School and has her jump wings. We taught our daughters (and sons) that “women’s work” is whatever they want it to be.

talldatethrow 3y ago
The problem is, if given time to practice, men would become atleast statistically average at softball yet women would have no hope in real baseball. Similar to how the women's USA national soccer team got crushed by a state level 15 year old boys team. I'm all for telling women they can work their but off to become top 3% of women, at which point they'll be better than many men at most physical activities.
- zimpenfish 3y ago
  > Similar to how the women's USA national soccer team got crushed by a state level 15 year old boys team. Not this nonsense again. It was a low-level training match for the USWNT where they were trying out different tactics (playing players out of position, etc.) before a real match against Russia.
  - talldatethrow 3y ago
    You can phrase it however you want. If you're going to meet to try tactics, against a group of boys that don't even play like the women's Russian team, you must care somewhat. And they got crushed. End of story.
    - zimpenfish 3y ago
      > If you're going to meet to try tactics, against a group of boys that don't even play like the women's Russian team That's not the point of trying out new tactics, though - it's to see whether your players can cope with the systems and being played out of position. The opponent almost doesn't matter because when you're playing unfamiliar tactics and out of position, you're likely to lose against whoever you play. Much like getting a Bridge team to use a bidding system they've never used before - doesn't matter if it's Omar Sharif and Pierre Zimmerman, they'll probably lose against mid-level opposition AND IT MEANS NOTHING.
- kstrauser 3y ago
  This is all completely missing the point.
  - talldatethrow 3y ago
    What is the point? That people lie to young girls telling them they can do anything a man can do, without any negative repercussions? Tell that to all the women in their late 30s on anti depressants sad they basically can't have kids and tired of getting ran through on tinder and bumble.
    - kstrauser 3y ago
      This comment is repulsive and you could have phrased your point a thousand better ways.
      - talldatethrow 3y ago
        Reality is pretty repulsive. You should teach them that before guys like me do.