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That's a bummer. Maybe they could upload the videos to the Internet Archive?
by jan_Sate 3y ago
That's a bummer. Maybe they could upload the videos to the Internet Archive?
- skinkestek 3y agoCopyright abusers are there as well I think. At least last time I wanted to watch Tom and Jerry with my youngest daughter it was gone. (Or maybe that was still within copyright? I don't know.)
- bryanrasmussen 3y agoaside from whatever copyright Tom and Jerry falls under I believe they are also Trademarked.
- _0ffh 3y agoI thought trademarks were for the defense against knock-offs, not the public domain.
- bryanrasmussen 3y agoprobably paranoid - was just wondering if you could get hit for claiming to have legitimate Tom and Jerry videos for download if you didn't have the trademark for Tom and Jerry.
- wongarsu 3y agoIf they are legitimate Tom and Jerry videos that's not an issue. If you make your own videos and call them Tom and Jerry, that's a potential trademark violation. The idea of trademarks is to prevent customer confusion, and while there's some abuse and perverse incentives most trademark law makes sense through that lens. You are allowed to sell your used Ford F150 under the trademark Ford, because that's an accurate description. It doesn't stop being a Ford, pretty much no matter what you do to it. But if you build a car from scratch and claim it's a Ford F150 that's a trademark violation because you would be pretending that the vehicle was made by the Ford Motor Company, with their manufacturing standards, quality control etc.
- skinkestek 3y agoThanks for a really easy to understand explanation!
- bryanrasmussen 3y agoyeah, I wasn't thinking straight - on the other hand your explanation does make me wonder now if Johnny Cash's One Piece At a Time Cadillac would have ran into trouble if he tried to sell it.
- ta1243 3y agoCopyright is pretty much perpetual. The very first Tom and Jerry was only 80 years ago, another 10-20 years before the ones released towards the end of the 1940s would be available You can get a lot of them on amazon.
- yreg 3y agoYouTube doesn't seem like the place for this kind of thing. I used to have a (not-monetized) YouTube channel with Apple adverts since Apple deletes them after some time. Even the very old videos got deleted so often that I gave up.
- nness 3y agoInternet Archive is having its own legal troubles at the moment, might no longer be the archival safe-haven we'd hope...
- bombcar 3y agoStorage is cheap, if there’s something you’re interested in it’s time to become a data hoarder.
- sekh60 3y agoDatahoarder here, the drives are relatively cheap, but the overall cost to do it right is expensive. I have a somewhat durable setup (about 370TiB raw, replica count 3, 5 node Ceph cluster). And just that before backups I work total cost to be about $1000CAD per usable TiB. I don't shuck drives though, that could probably bring it down to 800.
- MaKey 3y agoSo you've invested six figures into a private data hoarding setup? Not bad.
- sekh60 3y agoI guess it is around six figures by now. Better not let my wife realize that, lol.
- edude03 3y ago3 replicas as in 3 complete copies of the data? Wouldn’t something would erasure coding be cheaper?
- tremon 3y agoErasure coding is only used for local duplication. If you have cross-site or cross-machine copies, you really don't want the speed of the rebuild to be dominated by available network bandwidth.
- magic_hamster 3y agoThe internet archive became almost impossible for larger uploads recently. Not sure what's going on there, but it seems that both using the command line app as well as the web uploader is extremely slow and larger files will just get a "network error" after a while. Searching for this issue I've seen it's fairly common. I imagine uploading an entire "video museum" is going to be a nightmare if it's even possible in the current state of the archive.