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TLDR for those not aware of the drama: ThePHD was invited to give the keynote talk at Rustconf 2023 on reflection in rust. Someone emitted doubt it was a good i

by Sytten 3y ago

TLDR for those not aware of the drama: ThePHD was invited to give the keynote talk at Rustconf 2023 on reflection in rust. Someone emitted doubt it was a good idea and it was pulled in an insulting manner from him. Fast forward to now where it was speculated that dtolnay (an influencal person for rust) was the one expressing doubts. IMO there is likely a lot of miscommunication and some power trip/ego that resulted in this particular event. Yes people should apologize and improve transparency but ThePHD is really not acting well either and has a big ego of his own it seems to me.

pjmlp 3y ago
Ego, or not, this a by the book example of how not to deal with guests, or people in general for that matter. Additionally, as side effect from this drama, ThePHD is now back working on WG14 and WG21, and his employer dropped all Rust related efforts.
gdcbe 3y ago
Agreed. Very much ego issues on both sides indeed. Next to that I feel some people love any negativity about Rust to make them feel better. Just like there are fans on the other end of the spectrum. Yet to me this just seems to be a typical human issue and that you see play out in pretty much any org and country… not sure why rust as a group of communities would be different then that. If you solve this you’re well on your way to have hope on world peace, no? Most of us are pragmatic I would hope and realise that Rust has grown into an alternative for some projects where it suits for. Is it for everything? Is it perfect? Is it the best? No, no, and shrug. But still, glad it exists :) let’s enjoy it. Continue to improve tech and ourselves and enjoy life a bit? If he really wants to give the talk/keynote just put it on YouTube already… the world is bigger then a conference. Sure what happened was wrong, but seriously this blew out sooo out of proportion…

by Sytten 3y ago

pjmlp 3y ago

Ego, or not, this a by the book example of how not to deal with guests, or people in general for that matter. Additionally, as side effect from this drama, ThePHD is now back working on WG14 and WG21, and his employer dropped all Rust related efforts.

gdcbe 3y ago

Agreed. Very much ego issues on both sides indeed. Next to that I feel some people love any negativity about Rust to make them feel better. Just like there are fans on the other end of the spectrum. Yet to me this just seems to be a typical human issue and that you see play out in pretty much any org and country… not sure why rust as a group of communities would be different then that. If you solve this you’re well on your way to have hope on world peace, no? Most of us are pragmatic I would hope and realise that Rust has grown into an alternative for some projects where it suits for. Is it for everything? Is it perfect? Is it the best? No, no, and shrug. But still, glad it exists :) let’s enjoy it. Continue to improve tech and ourselves and enjoy life a bit? If he really wants to give the talk/keynote just put it on YouTube already… the world is bigger then a conference. Sure what happened was wrong, but seriously this blew out sooo out of proportion…