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Yes, there is a conflict, but it's not an unsolvable one. Google implemented a compromise - paid ads get displayed at the top, but they are marked as ads, so i

Yes, there is a conflict, but it's not an unsolvable one. Google implemented a compromise - paid ads get displayed at the top, but they are marked as ads, so if you want the most relevant results, you scroll below the paid ads.

thaumasiotes 3y ago
Paid ads used to be displayed to the side of the results. Being displayed instead of the results isn't so much of a "compromise".
- The_Colonel 3y ago
  "instead" suggests that the actual results aren't there, which isn't true. You just need to scroll a bit. Google needs to tread the balance to stay usable, otherwise people stop using it.
  - thaumasiotes 3y ago
    If the results are there, but not displayed, then whatever is displayed is being displayed instead of the results.
    - The_Colonel 3y ago
      The results are displayed on the page, just a little bit below the ads.
      - thaumasiotes 3y ago
        If you have to scroll, they are not displayed. You seem to have a working definition of "display" which does not include making something visible, but that conflicts with every actual definition of the term.
        The_Colonel 3y ago
        That depends on the size of the screen then? On my 15" laptop screen if I google "buy s23", I see both ads and non-ads without scrolling.
dredmorbius 3y ago
How those ads are presented has changed tremendously over time: <http://searchengineland.com/wp-content/seloads/2016/07/google-ad-shading-labeling-history-update-2017.png http://searchengineland.com/wp-content/seloads/2016/07/googl...> 60% of people cannot tell ads from organic search results: <https://www.smartinsights.com/paid-search-marketing-ppc/paid-search-strategy/customers-dont-know-a-google-advert/ https://www.smartinsights.com/paid-search-marketing-ppc/paid...>
- The_Colonel 3y ago
  Indeed. Google is far from being a saint. The idea I'm disputing is that the conflict between organic results and ads is impossible to solve. Google solved it many years ago, but is now regressing from it.

thaumasiotes 3y ago

Paid ads used to be displayed to the side of the results. Being displayed instead of the results isn't so much of a "compromise".

The_Colonel 3y ago
"instead" suggests that the actual results aren't there, which isn't true. You just need to scroll a bit. Google needs to tread the balance to stay usable, otherwise people stop using it.
- thaumasiotes 3y ago
  If the results are there, but not displayed, then whatever is displayed is being displayed instead of the results.
  - The_Colonel 3y ago
    The results are displayed on the page, just a little bit below the ads.
    - thaumasiotes 3y ago
      If you have to scroll, they are not displayed. You seem to have a working definition of "display" which does not include making something visible, but that conflicts with every actual definition of the term.
      - The_Colonel 3y ago
        That depends on the size of the screen then? On my 15" laptop screen if I google "buy s23", I see both ads and non-ads without scrolling.

dredmorbius 3y ago

How those ads are presented has changed tremendously over time: <http://searchengineland.com/wp-content/seloads/2016/07/google-ad-shading-labeling-history-update-2017.png http://searchengineland.com/wp-content/seloads/2016/07/googl...> 60% of people cannot tell ads from organic search results: <https://www.smartinsights.com/paid-search-marketing-ppc/paid-search-strategy/customers-dont-know-a-google-advert/ https://www.smartinsights.com/paid-search-marketing-ppc/paid...>

The_Colonel 3y ago
Indeed. Google is far from being a saint. The idea I'm disputing is that the conflict between organic results and ads is impossible to solve. Google solved it many years ago, but is now regressing from it.