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I don't understand the outsized media attention to this festival. Every music festival I've been to eventually turned into a huge puddle of mud, where you're st

I don't understand the outsized media attention to this festival. Every music festival I've been to eventually turned into a huge puddle of mud, where you're stuck for hours trying to leave the festival as all the cars get bogged down. Has no journalist ever been to a music festival?

diebeforei485 3y ago
Burning Man isn't a music festival, it's all about self-reliance and stuff, so it's especially ironic that people are bailing when there is a slight discomfort in the scheme of things.
- prepend 3y ago
  Are people bailing? So far it seems like the self-reliance is working as planned. We kind of need to see if something bad happens to those people waiting it out. It’s not ironic that people don’t like being rained on and stuck in mud. It’s not a sight discomfort. And people aren’t bailing as the roads are closed and they are stuck there.
marssaxman 3y ago
It's not a music festival, and this has never happened before; the event takes place in an extremely arid desert. Normally one struggles with heat, dust, and wind - not mud. Getting stuck for hours trying to leave is normal, but that's due to the narrowness of the remote desert highway which offers the only exit.
- wcoenen 3y ago
  > this has never happened before; the event takes place in an extremely arid desert This doesn't seem to be true. Just Google something like "burning man mud" and filter to see results from before this year. Example from 2014 below https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/burning-man-muddy-mess/ https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/burning-man-...
  - marssaxman 3y ago
    I suppose it is all in the definitions. Yes, it has rained before, and 2014 had a legendary rainstorm: but this year we have had multiple rainstorms, wet day after wet day with no chance to dry out in between. It has felt like a new experience. Today it is sunny and warm, so the mud is starting to dry out, and things are starting to move. We'll probably get on the road tomorrow.
kayfox 3y ago
A little bit of context: Driving on wet playa is prohibited (and pointless, you get stuck no matter how good your offroading capability is). So while music festivals may get muddy, when it gets muddy at Burning Man vehicle usage has to stop, otherwise fines get levied ($500~800 per ticket, and BLM will keep ticketing you if you keep driving).

diebeforei485 3y ago

Burning Man isn't a music festival, it's all about self-reliance and stuff, so it's especially ironic that people are bailing when there is a slight discomfort in the scheme of things.

prepend 3y ago
Are people bailing? So far it seems like the self-reliance is working as planned. We kind of need to see if something bad happens to those people waiting it out. It’s not ironic that people don’t like being rained on and stuck in mud. It’s not a sight discomfort. And people aren’t bailing as the roads are closed and they are stuck there.

marssaxman 3y ago

It's not a music festival, and this has never happened before; the event takes place in an extremely arid desert. Normally one struggles with heat, dust, and wind - not mud. Getting stuck for hours trying to leave is normal, but that's due to the narrowness of the remote desert highway which offers the only exit.

wcoenen 3y ago
> this has never happened before; the event takes place in an extremely arid desert This doesn't seem to be true. Just Google something like "burning man mud" and filter to see results from before this year. Example from 2014 below https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/burning-man-muddy-mess/ https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/burning-man-...
- marssaxman 3y ago
  I suppose it is all in the definitions. Yes, it has rained before, and 2014 had a legendary rainstorm: but this year we have had multiple rainstorms, wet day after wet day with no chance to dry out in between. It has felt like a new experience. Today it is sunny and warm, so the mud is starting to dry out, and things are starting to move. We'll probably get on the road tomorrow.

kayfox 3y ago

A little bit of context: Driving on wet playa is prohibited (and pointless, you get stuck no matter how good your offroading capability is). So while music festivals may get muddy, when it gets muddy at Burning Man vehicle usage has to stop, otherwise fines get levied ($500~800 per ticket, and BLM will keep ticketing you if you keep driving).