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> the gameplay was almost besides the point. Well yes, because it was porn.

• PaulHoule 3y ago
  They made console releases that edited out the naughty bits.
• dotnet00 3y ago
  The original Fate VN is notorious for the porn bits being hilariously poorly written compared to the rest. They basically only exist because the porn is a staple of the format.
  • tekla 3y ago
    I don't need to be reminded. I've played all the Fate/Nasu games before FGO. I liked it better when Fate was porn and not Gacha. Not because of the porn, but because it was better as a setting.
    • PaulHoule 3y ago
      I thought Fate/Extra and Fate/Extella were sublime, not so much because of the gameplay, which was adequate, but because of the character development.
• coconut08 3y ago
  no one flippantly calls game of thrones or rated r movies porn even though many of them have a far larger ratio of sex and nudity to non-sex sex and nudity scenes than you will find in fate/stay night. fate stay night is a 90 hour visual novel with a few short sex scenes that are effectively bolted on after the fact and are even cut out entirely of most releases of the game at this point.
  • tekla 3y ago
    Oh please, spare me the indignation. I remember just fine when the translations for Tsukihime and FSN were released. I remember fine when Fate/Hollow Ataraxia was released. Nobody was deluding themselves Everyone knew just fine this was porn with pretty decent story attached to it. Rance and MGQ had good enough gameplay attached to it, but everyone knows its for porn. I remember when Mahoutsukai no Yoru was released and everyone begging to figure out where the porn was. Last time i checked, a TL still hasn't been released a decade later, no porn as a reward. Yes, the game has been edited to be family friendly and vanilla at this point, but it doesn't change the fact that it was originally released as hentai, Nasu's ability to compare genitals to oysters be damned.
    • makeitdouble 3y ago
      You're both sharing the same point. Sex sells, and is an important part of boosting attention to a product. Yet the game and series makers spend 99% of their time on the rest. Games with sex and tv series with boobs abound, the reason Fate SN or GoT succeeded isn't "because porn", even if it was part of the original recipe.
    • lmm 3y ago
      A great many of today's fans have never encountered the sex scenes. They're a tiny fraction of the original game, they're well-known as not being particularly erotic or well-written; they're really not important or relevant to the game's history or sales. A couple of sex scenes don't make a game "porn" any more than a couple of quips make a game "comedy". That you focus on them says more about you than it does about FSN. One out of Clannad and Kanon has sex scenes in and the other doesn't. I can't even remember which is which, and it doesn't matter.
    • rtpg 3y ago
      I feel like the fact that stuff like Fate and Tsukihime get all-age releases on home consoles is some data point to consider. That and the fact that F/SN is an amazingly long thing (like 50+ hours of reading?) for the handful of scenes... I mean that's a lot of work if it's for a CG pack!
    • vinceguidry 3y ago
• Dalewyn 3y ago
  As an avid Fate/Grand Order (aka FGO) player of 7 years and counting, I can tell you it's because the writing is simply out of this world. Type-Moon's (and specifically Nasu Kinoko's) writing is satisfying to read, and his prowess as a storyteller is the only reason why FGO has become the long-running smash success it is today. Many other FGO ripoffs came and immediately died, including even one by the developers of FGO themselves (FGO development at the time was outsourced to DelightWorks by Type-Moon, Type-Moon just does the writing and supervision) because FGO's gameplay is straight concentrated dogshit.
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  • PaulHoule 3y ago
    ... and the character design.