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Presidential candidate websites Only ones in the first two pages (or more) are Biden's campaign website (of course) and Marianne Wilson's website. No RFK Jr, n

by superq 3y ago

Presidential candidate websites Only ones in the first two pages (or more) are Biden's campaign website (of course) and Marianne Wilson's website. No RFK Jr, no Vivek Ramaswamy, not even Trump's. Either it is egregious incompetence, or it's deliberate.

LegionMammal978 3y ago
No search engine seems to respond very well to the query "presidential candidate websites" (without the quotes), by your criterion. As an experiment, I tried it with a few of them from a private tab on my phone, looking at the first 5 pages of results. Yandex.com (page length 10) doesn't link to any candidate websites. DDG (page lengths 10, 20, 50, 50, 50) links to Joe Biden (page 1), Nikki Haley (page 2), RFK Jr. (page 2), Chris Christie (page 3), Marianne Williamson (page 3), Ron DeSantis (page 3), and Perry Johnson (page 4). It's missing Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Mike Pence. Bing (page lengths 10, 14, 14, 14, 14) links to Joe Biden (page 1), Nikki Haley (page 2), Chris Christie (page 2), Marianne Williamson (page 3), RFK Jr. (page 3), and Ron DeSantis (page 3). It's missing Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Mike Pence. Brave Search (page length 19) links to Joe Biden (page 1), Marianne Williamson (page 1), and Cornel West (page 3). It's missing RFK Jr., as well as all Republican candidates. Yahoo (page length 10) links to Nikki Haley (page 2), Chris Christie (page 2), RFK Jr. (page 4), and Ron DeSantis (page 4). It's missing Joe Biden, Marianne Williamson, Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Mike Pence. Google (page length 10) links to Joe Biden (page 1), Marianne Williamson (page 1), Ron DeSantis (page 4), and Mike Pence (page 5). It's missing RFK Jr., Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, Nikki Haley, and Chris Christie. None of these search engines link to more than two candidate websites within the first 20 results, nor do they link to Trump's or Ramaswamy's websites, so Google is far from alone in that regard. (I haven't been able to test with Kagi Search to see if it is any different.) Perhaps search engines are simply bound to see such a query as asking more for the concept of candidate websites in general, than for topical examples in particular.
- superq 3y ago
  Thanks, upvoting for the extensive research!
- alaxapta7 3y ago
  Kagi, location set to United States: Page 1: Biden, Williamson and link to an article Google hides campaign sites of Trump, RFK Jr. and other Republican candidates Page 2: Biden again, Pence No further pages. 5th result contains an article that claims to be linking all presidental candidate websites, but it's a Medium, hidden behind sign-up. I haven't find any result with a comprehensive list of the websites of interest. Kagi does aggregate results from Google and Yandex, so this is probably not too surprising.
  - carlosjobim 3y ago
    On Kagi (International) I got these results on the first page: First result: Joe Biden Further down: Bernie Sanders, Marianne Williamsson, Hillary Clinton Further down: Article: "Google hides campaign sites of Trump, RFK Jr. and other Republican candidates" Further down: Ron DeSantis Between these results there are several links with lists of all candidates.
    - alaxapta7 3y ago
      Did it give you a result leading directly to their canonical campaign website? I can see Sanders and Clinton with international, but can't see DeSantis nor any other Republican candidate (not even Pence). I can definitelly see pages with lists of candidates, but I couldn't find a single one that would also link their websites and thus satisfy the query, at least indirectly.
      - carlosjobim 3y ago
        The results seem to change as we speak. I no longer have any republican candidates on the first page of search results, but the links in the results are to the canonical campaign sites.
iLoveOncall 3y ago
Google is a search engine, not an AI. Thanks for confirming that you are in the second bucket and just don't know how to use it.
jfoster 3y ago
Interesting query. Whilst it may be debatable what the ordering should be, there is a somewhat small set of objective correct results that should make the first page.

by superq 3y ago

LegionMammal978 3y ago

No search engine seems to respond very well to the query "presidential candidate websites" (without the quotes), by your criterion. As an experiment, I tried it with a few of them from a private tab on my phone, looking at the first 5 pages of results. Yandex.com (page length 10) doesn't link to any candidate websites. DDG (page lengths 10, 20, 50, 50, 50) links to Joe Biden (page 1), Nikki Haley (page 2), RFK Jr. (page 2), Chris Christie (page 3), Marianne Williamson (page 3), Ron DeSantis (page 3), and Perry Johnson (page 4). It's missing Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Mike Pence. Bing (page lengths 10, 14, 14, 14, 14) links to Joe Biden (page 1), Nikki Haley (page 2), Chris Christie (page 2), Marianne Williamson (page 3), RFK Jr. (page 3), and Ron DeSantis (page 3). It's missing Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Mike Pence. Brave Search (page length 19) links to Joe Biden (page 1), Marianne Williamson (page 1), and Cornel West (page 3). It's missing RFK Jr., as well as all Republican candidates. Yahoo (page length 10) links to Nikki Haley (page 2), Chris Christie (page 2), RFK Jr. (page 4), and Ron DeSantis (page 4). It's missing Joe Biden, Marianne Williamson, Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Mike Pence. Google (page length 10) links to Joe Biden (page 1), Marianne Williamson (page 1), Ron DeSantis (page 4), and Mike Pence (page 5). It's missing RFK Jr., Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, Nikki Haley, and Chris Christie. None of these search engines link to more than two candidate websites within the first 20 results, nor do they link to Trump's or Ramaswamy's websites, so Google is far from alone in that regard. (I haven't been able to test with Kagi Search to see if it is any different.) Perhaps search engines are simply bound to see such a query as asking more for the concept of candidate websites in general, than for topical examples in particular.

superq 3y ago
Thanks, upvoting for the extensive research!
alaxapta7 3y ago
Kagi, location set to United States: Page 1: Biden, Williamson and link to an article Google hides campaign sites of Trump, RFK Jr. and other Republican candidates Page 2: Biden again, Pence No further pages. 5th result contains an article that claims to be linking all presidental candidate websites, but it's a Medium, hidden behind sign-up. I haven't find any result with a comprehensive list of the websites of interest. Kagi does aggregate results from Google and Yandex, so this is probably not too surprising.
- carlosjobim 3y ago
  On Kagi (International) I got these results on the first page: First result: Joe Biden Further down: Bernie Sanders, Marianne Williamsson, Hillary Clinton Further down: Article: "Google hides campaign sites of Trump, RFK Jr. and other Republican candidates" Further down: Ron DeSantis Between these results there are several links with lists of all candidates.
  - alaxapta7 3y ago
    Did it give you a result leading directly to their canonical campaign website? I can see Sanders and Clinton with international, but can't see DeSantis nor any other Republican candidate (not even Pence). I can definitelly see pages with lists of candidates, but I couldn't find a single one that would also link their websites and thus satisfy the query, at least indirectly.
    - carlosjobim 3y ago
      The results seem to change as we speak. I no longer have any republican candidates on the first page of search results, but the links in the results are to the canonical campaign sites.

iLoveOncall 3y ago

Google is a search engine, not an AI. Thanks for confirming that you are in the second bucket and just don't know how to use it.

jfoster 3y ago

Interesting query. Whilst it may be debatable what the ordering should be, there is a somewhat small set of objective correct results that should make the first page.