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I'm sure I'm just naive because I don't work in this space, but I keep wondering why they don't do machine learning from a satellite perspective. Yes, the cars

I'm sure I'm just naive because I don't work in this space, but I keep wondering why they don't do machine learning from a satellite perspective. Yes, the cars need to notice and react to things in front of them. However, a lot of problem areas and odd navigation can be identified from space. I'm surprised they don't do some massive slow exposure shots from a satellite and see how traffic flows across the entire US. I want a car that can react in realtime to new problems, but it has a massive amount of storage so it can probably be told ahead of time what roads, interchanges, freeway onramps, etc.. are problems, and what should guide its decision making.

kec 3y ago
How would satellite imagery help at night, during cloudy/stormy weather? What sort of latency does the imagery have? Can commercial imagery even resolve things like painted lane markers, construction detour signage, etc?
- ForestCritter 3y ago
  car meet deer meet death in my neck of the woods anyway. Satteltes can't predict deer. Most of the time we can't even predict them.
- coffeebeqn 3y ago
  There’s also a much easier method - just get the delta of every Tesla on the road to the speed limit and you can see how well traffic flows. All the navigation apps already do that
- throwaway914 3y ago
  Part of the problem is reacting in real-time. The part I'm talking about: Is you can "tell" the car what to expect at this interchange, and still react in real-time to present conditions. You hear all the time about Teslas driving off a ramp or not changing lanes quick enough due to odd paint stripes on the road, and I keep thinking you can see this from space. Why isn't there a database of known "this is a road, this is not a road" that it looks at first before looking at surrounding cameras outside the car? You can see how traffic moves -> from space. Part of these conditions are known well ahead of time on any present day regardless of the weather.
  - Zigurd 3y ago
    There is such a database, but Tesla relies on camera images for the data while nearly everyone else uses LIDAR to create a 3D model in addition to camera images (which can be mapped onto the 3D point cloud, enhancing their value). Camera-only is a bet-the-company move considering the large slice of Tesla'a valuation based on future robotaxi revenue.

kec 3y ago

How would satellite imagery help at night, during cloudy/stormy weather? What sort of latency does the imagery have? Can commercial imagery even resolve things like painted lane markers, construction detour signage, etc?

ForestCritter 3y ago
car meet deer meet death in my neck of the woods anyway. Satteltes can't predict deer. Most of the time we can't even predict them.
coffeebeqn 3y ago
There’s also a much easier method - just get the delta of every Tesla on the road to the speed limit and you can see how well traffic flows. All the navigation apps already do that
throwaway914 3y ago
Part of the problem is reacting in real-time. The part I'm talking about: Is you can "tell" the car what to expect at this interchange, and still react in real-time to present conditions. You hear all the time about Teslas driving off a ramp or not changing lanes quick enough due to odd paint stripes on the road, and I keep thinking you can see this from space. Why isn't there a database of known "this is a road, this is not a road" that it looks at first before looking at surrounding cameras outside the car? You can see how traffic moves -> from space. Part of these conditions are known well ahead of time on any present day regardless of the weather.
- Zigurd 3y ago
  There is such a database, but Tesla relies on camera images for the data while nearly everyone else uses LIDAR to create a 3D model in addition to camera images (which can be mapped onto the 3D point cloud, enhancing their value). Camera-only is a bet-the-company move considering the large slice of Tesla'a valuation based on future robotaxi revenue.