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Capitalism actually fixes that, Brazilian beef and argentina and paraguay for that matter too are extraordinarily cheap because tariffs make them expensive in t

by _3u10 3y ago

Capitalism actually fixes that, Brazilian beef and argentina and paraguay for that matter too are extraordinarily cheap because tariffs make them expensive in the US / EU. Luckily we like beef so we eat it all ourselves. You get moral superiority we get cheap high quality meat, everyone wins.

Symbiote 3y ago
I don't think there's much demand for South American meat here in Denmark, but vegetables and especially fruit from Africa and South America is easily affordable and available when it's not in season in Europe. Capitalism has failed to take account of the environmental cost.
- _3u10 3y ago
  Fruits and veg are generally twice the price in the EU, stuff that is grown largely or only here is more like 4x the price in the EU. Coffee, avocados, etc. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Paraguay&city1=Asuncion&country2=Denmark&city2=Copenhagen&displayCurrency=EUR https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou... These prices are a little high too, if you drive to Clorinda in Argentina (15 - 20 mins), it's about half the price. EU Cattle farmers disagree with you, without tariffs your ranches would be crushed, or more politely made redundant. It's pretty expensive, https://www.dw.com/en/what-does-eu-mercosur-trade-deal-mean-for-ranchers/a-66203231 https://www.dw.com/en/what-does-eu-mercosur-trade-deal-mean-... "This would have a very negative effect on the price our producers receive, and this would discourage farmers from taking over farms," said Benoit Cassart, secretary-general of the Belgian Cattle Trade Federation. "Premium, high-quality meat holds great value in Europe. That's not the case in China, for example. We are hopeful that the European market will open up to Brazilian meat with the finalization of the agreement," Marina told DW. "That doesn't mean they are producing something bad. But if they must remove the Amazon rainforests to produce meat and send it to Europe, and this makes our green pasture redundant, it makes no sense at all," he told DW.
  - Symbiote 3y ago
    My point is Europe produces its own high-quality meat, at a price we can afford. It's not consumers pushing for this trade deal, it's the wealthy capital-owners who stand to make a large profit at the expense of the environment. Food etc. being 2x to 4x more expensive here isn't a problem. You see from the last section of your table that salaries are 900% higher too.

by _3u10 3y ago

Symbiote 3y ago

I don't think there's much demand for South American meat here in Denmark, but vegetables and especially fruit from Africa and South America is easily affordable and available when it's not in season in Europe. Capitalism has failed to take account of the environmental cost.

_3u10 3y ago
Fruits and veg are generally twice the price in the EU, stuff that is grown largely or only here is more like 4x the price in the EU. Coffee, avocados, etc. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Paraguay&city1=Asuncion&country2=Denmark&city2=Copenhagen&displayCurrency=EUR https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou... These prices are a little high too, if you drive to Clorinda in Argentina (15 - 20 mins), it's about half the price. EU Cattle farmers disagree with you, without tariffs your ranches would be crushed, or more politely made redundant. It's pretty expensive, https://www.dw.com/en/what-does-eu-mercosur-trade-deal-mean-for-ranchers/a-66203231 https://www.dw.com/en/what-does-eu-mercosur-trade-deal-mean-... "This would have a very negative effect on the price our producers receive, and this would discourage farmers from taking over farms," said Benoit Cassart, secretary-general of the Belgian Cattle Trade Federation. "Premium, high-quality meat holds great value in Europe. That's not the case in China, for example. We are hopeful that the European market will open up to Brazilian meat with the finalization of the agreement," Marina told DW. "That doesn't mean they are producing something bad. But if they must remove the Amazon rainforests to produce meat and send it to Europe, and this makes our green pasture redundant, it makes no sense at all," he told DW.
- Symbiote 3y ago
  My point is Europe produces its own high-quality meat, at a price we can afford. It's not consumers pushing for this trade deal, it's the wealthy capital-owners who stand to make a large profit at the expense of the environment. Food etc. being 2x to 4x more expensive here isn't a problem. You see from the last section of your table that salaries are 900% higher too.