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the youtube people who work on shorts should feel ashamed of themselves. They have a platform with a certain reputation and acclaim by users for providing - an

by seydor 3y ago

the youtube people who work on shorts should feel ashamed of themselves. They have a platform with a certain reputation and acclaim by users for providing - and supporting- all sorts of quality content, yet they push hard (very hard) an awfully trivial form of (not even) entertainment where you can't even seek the video back and forward. you should at least adjust your messaging to say how sorry you are for shoving shorts on our faces

layer8 3y ago
> you can't even seek the video back and forward For me that works with shorts, maybe it’s a recent change.
- seydor 3y ago
  nope (desktop chrome) Also, if you are casting videos from your phone to a TV, and you accidentally (a well planned accident) click on shorts , it ends the TV cast
  - layer8 3y ago
    Safari mobile, and the iOS YouTube app.
commonlisp94 3y ago
It's also often sexual or suggestive content. inb4 it's just showing me what I like. In icognito mode go to YouTube and watch a single video that might suggest you are an 18-45 year old male, and then look at your suggested shorts.
- Nihilartikel 3y ago
  Agreed, though somehow a few of my accounts have escaped that recommendation minima in YouTube. Not so much on tiktok or any fb property. They really force the onlyfans market-funnel jiggle videos into your face..
- jacquesm 3y ago
  More like 13 to 95...
- isanjay 3y ago
  > it's just showing me what I like This is a silly and stupid argument. I was searching for some programming tutorials and it showed suggestive content in search results in maybe you might also like section or something like that. WTF is that.
pxoe 3y ago
let's not pretend like youtube has some heights of quality it's upholding. "all sorts of quality" is really more like all sorts ranging from good to bad to awful. and short-form comedy is in there too, and was there all along, right on the regular youtube.
- seydor 3y ago
  the quality has gotten better over the years so they must have been doing something right
  - pxoe 3y ago
    they're mostly doing nothing. they're sleeping on every emerging video category. they got a video podcasts section only this year. their gaming catalog remains barebones. it's like they just don't want to make any "controversial" content curation decisions, even if it means that the platform is stagnating. let's not confuse creators and creator communities progressing and evolving, with state of platforms they happen to be on.
  - arlcode 3y ago
    What has gone down is my ability to even tell what a video is even about since YouTubes algorithm/metrics/ad distribution Encourages creators to make absolute garbage titles and thumbnails in order to be discovered. This has absolutely negatively affected my YouTube view time since I am annoyed at having to guess the topic and whether it is worth suffering an ad for it. I put this in YouTubes court since they control what is shown to users and what isn't.
Findecanor 3y ago
> you can't even seek the video back and forward. You can copy the video ID into the URL of the normal player and play it like any other video. There's a Tampermonkey script that changes the player automatically: <https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/439993-youtube-shorts-redirect https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/439993-youtube-shorts-redi...>

by seydor 3y ago

layer8 3y ago

> you can't even seek the video back and forward For me that works with shorts, maybe it’s a recent change.

seydor 3y ago
nope (desktop chrome) Also, if you are casting videos from your phone to a TV, and you accidentally (a well planned accident) click on shorts , it ends the TV cast
- layer8 3y ago
  Safari mobile, and the iOS YouTube app.

commonlisp94 3y ago

It's also often sexual or suggestive content. inb4 it's just showing me what I like. In icognito mode go to YouTube and watch a single video that might suggest you are an 18-45 year old male, and then look at your suggested shorts.

Nihilartikel 3y ago
Agreed, though somehow a few of my accounts have escaped that recommendation minima in YouTube. Not so much on tiktok or any fb property. They really force the onlyfans market-funnel jiggle videos into your face..
jacquesm 3y ago
More like 13 to 95...
isanjay 3y ago
> it's just showing me what I like This is a silly and stupid argument. I was searching for some programming tutorials and it showed suggestive content in search results in maybe you might also like section or something like that. WTF is that.

pxoe 3y ago

let's not pretend like youtube has some heights of quality it's upholding. "all sorts of quality" is really more like all sorts ranging from good to bad to awful. and short-form comedy is in there too, and was there all along, right on the regular youtube.

seydor 3y ago
the quality has gotten better over the years so they must have been doing something right
- pxoe 3y ago
  they're mostly doing nothing. they're sleeping on every emerging video category. they got a video podcasts section only this year. their gaming catalog remains barebones. it's like they just don't want to make any "controversial" content curation decisions, even if it means that the platform is stagnating. let's not confuse creators and creator communities progressing and evolving, with state of platforms they happen to be on.
- arlcode 3y ago
  What has gone down is my ability to even tell what a video is even about since YouTubes algorithm/metrics/ad distribution Encourages creators to make absolute garbage titles and thumbnails in order to be discovered. This has absolutely negatively affected my YouTube view time since I am annoyed at having to guess the topic and whether it is worth suffering an ad for it. I put this in YouTubes court since they control what is shown to users and what isn't.

Findecanor 3y ago

> you can't even seek the video back and forward. You can copy the video ID into the URL of the normal player and play it like any other video. There's a Tampermonkey script that changes the player automatically: <https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/439993-youtube-shorts-redirect https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/439993-youtube-shorts-redi...>