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Don't take xanax before the trip; and if you are really so inclined, just have the proper dosage ready nearby. The trick is /knowing/ that you can stop it. But

Don't take xanax before the trip; and if you are really so inclined, just have the proper dosage ready nearby. The trick is /knowing/ that you can stop it. But treat it as a last resort. If you let go, the fear will melt away on its own. If it does, you'll find a level of peace and clarity. If it doesn't, even a bad trip can teach you something, if you step outside your mind and observe it like a scientist of yourself. This is part of gaining experience. This is part of the point of taking a psychedelic in the first place. If you chemically alter the fear away, you will never learn this. Start with a small dose, in a peaceful setting, with someone you trust who has done it before, do not re-dose during your first trip. Take shrooms or acid if you want to. They are serious drugs but akin to a lucid dream, if you believe in the adverse effects then they will hold more weight on your psyche. In this sense OP's comments are doing a massive disservice. Go to erowid and study up from there, instead of taking OP's obviously projected advice. (Also, in another comment, OP writes that it is impossible to OD on benzos alone, which is false. Judge the quality of the information for yourself.)

Jerrrry 3y ago
You say so much truth just too stumble over semantics, it really is hard to assume good faith when you literally misquote me. >if you believe in the adverse effects then they will hold more weight on your psyche. In this sense OP's comments are doing a massive disservice. Having a bad DMT trip will leave you with higher cortisol levels, and a little shaken, exactly, EXACTLY, like waking up from an uncomfortable dream. Having a bad LSD or mushroom trip is a magnitude more likely to be adverse in both the short and long term. >it is impossible to OD on benzos alone, which is false. >It's nearly impossible to kill yourself with it (benzos) alone >nearly.... alone >alone Please read the guidelines about bad-faith posting. Overdosing on Alprazolam without potentiating other medications is EXTREMELY uncommon. Look at the stats. Speaking of stats... >Go to erowid and study up from there, instead of taking OP's obviously projected advice. And after you've read it, all the anecdotal evidence will heavily lean towards my OBVIOUS concise assessment; but, this is HN. Scrape the reports, run it thru your favorite LLVM sentiement holistic, make an objective word-map, then tell me, on average, that I am not accurate in my obviously condensed assessment. LSD has, almost universally, an uncomfortable come-up, and a "burning" cleansing feeling. Mushrooms, objectively, make your stomach hurt, have body load, and can a much larger variance in dosage due to the nature of its procurement. 4acoDMT is better, xan+LSD microdosing is safe, and DMT is, without a doubt, the safest, most intense, life-changing, one-shot attempt of a awakening, any mortal, experienced or not, will ever have the opportunity to exerience. The list of drugs that exist that I haven't witnessed first hand is smaller than those you could name. Ayahuasca, while we are this note, however, is NOT something middle-aged suburbanites should dip their toes in. That is the equivalent of a DMT trip with the length of heavy LSD trip. THAT is the media and common conceptions yall should whitenight about.
- emptysongglass 3y ago
  > 4acoDMT is better, xan+LSD microdosing is safe, and DMT is, without a doubt, the safest, most intense, life-changing, one-shot attempt of a awakening, any mortal, experienced or not, will ever have the opportunity to exerience. Benzos are associated with cognitive impairment (we have studies for medium and long term users showing cognitive impairment even 10 months after discontinuation) and are highly addictive. Acute use as you prescribe is "probably fine" insofar as we have data to support it but given the risk of addiction, no, Xanax is not safe. Trying to get ahead of a bad trip by taking other drugs is generally a bad idea. Yes, there's many other hallucinogens people could be taking that would give a better, kinder, more concretely messaged trip but they're simply not widely available and medical literature on health risks are scarce or in the negative. We know LSD and psilocybin leads directly to neurogenesis and that the health risks are minimal, short of a psychotic break or delusion leading to the idea one can fly or some other risky belief. https://www.beckleyfoundation.org/2018/06/13/psychedelics-promote-neural-plasticity/ https://www.beckleyfoundation.org/2018/06/13/psychedelics-pr...
- uoaei 3y ago
  DMT is not so docile. It's fucked up at least two people I know. Not ayahuasca, just DMT. One of them lived 40 years of life, complete with happy marriage, before it was violently ripped away from them 15 minutes later in meat-time. The last mushrooms I had gave me no stomach pain and no body load. It's fascinating what genetics the growers are isolating nowadays. Methinks your bubble is still a bit small.

Jerrrry 3y ago

You say so much truth just too stumble over semantics, it really is hard to assume good faith when you literally misquote me. >if you believe in the adverse effects then they will hold more weight on your psyche. In this sense OP's comments are doing a massive disservice. Having a bad DMT trip will leave you with higher cortisol levels, and a little shaken, exactly, EXACTLY, like waking up from an uncomfortable dream. Having a bad LSD or mushroom trip is a magnitude more likely to be adverse in both the short and long term. >it is impossible to OD on benzos alone, which is false. >It's nearly impossible to kill yourself with it (benzos) alone >nearly.... alone >alone Please read the guidelines about bad-faith posting. Overdosing on Alprazolam without potentiating other medications is EXTREMELY uncommon. Look at the stats. Speaking of stats... >Go to erowid and study up from there, instead of taking OP's obviously projected advice. And after you've read it, all the anecdotal evidence will heavily lean towards my OBVIOUS concise assessment; but, this is HN. Scrape the reports, run it thru your favorite LLVM sentiement holistic, make an objective word-map, then tell me, on average, that I am not accurate in my obviously condensed assessment. LSD has, almost universally, an uncomfortable come-up, and a "burning" cleansing feeling. Mushrooms, objectively, make your stomach hurt, have body load, and can a much larger variance in dosage due to the nature of its procurement. 4acoDMT is better, xan+LSD microdosing is safe, and DMT is, without a doubt, the safest, most intense, life-changing, one-shot attempt of a awakening, any mortal, experienced or not, will ever have the opportunity to exerience. The list of drugs that exist that I haven't witnessed first hand is smaller than those you could name. Ayahuasca, while we are this note, however, is NOT something middle-aged suburbanites should dip their toes in. That is the equivalent of a DMT trip with the length of heavy LSD trip. THAT is the media and common conceptions yall should whitenight about.

emptysongglass 3y ago
> 4acoDMT is better, xan+LSD microdosing is safe, and DMT is, without a doubt, the safest, most intense, life-changing, one-shot attempt of a awakening, any mortal, experienced or not, will ever have the opportunity to exerience. Benzos are associated with cognitive impairment (we have studies for medium and long term users showing cognitive impairment even 10 months after discontinuation) and are highly addictive. Acute use as you prescribe is "probably fine" insofar as we have data to support it but given the risk of addiction, no, Xanax is not safe. Trying to get ahead of a bad trip by taking other drugs is generally a bad idea. Yes, there's many other hallucinogens people could be taking that would give a better, kinder, more concretely messaged trip but they're simply not widely available and medical literature on health risks are scarce or in the negative. We know LSD and psilocybin leads directly to neurogenesis and that the health risks are minimal, short of a psychotic break or delusion leading to the idea one can fly or some other risky belief. https://www.beckleyfoundation.org/2018/06/13/psychedelics-promote-neural-plasticity/ https://www.beckleyfoundation.org/2018/06/13/psychedelics-pr...
uoaei 3y ago
DMT is not so docile. It's fucked up at least two people I know. Not ayahuasca, just DMT. One of them lived 40 years of life, complete with happy marriage, before it was violently ripped away from them 15 minutes later in meat-time. The last mushrooms I had gave me no stomach pain and no body load. It's fascinating what genetics the growers are isolating nowadays. Methinks your bubble is still a bit small.