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I don't like this post. As a user of drugs when I can get hold of them (and strongly inclined to their legalisation), describing something as "overpowering, glo

I don't like this post. As a user of drugs when I can get hold of them (and strongly inclined to their legalisation), describing something as "overpowering, glorious, and delightful" dangerously misrepresent each person's own experience. Descriptions like this are bad advertising at best and at worst dangerously irresponsible. I also don't like your personal recommendation of DMT over mushrooms. You're not in a position to recommend anything based on your personal experience alone, especially when it relates to serious legal aspects of non-legal drugs. Finally, I don't like your recommendation of mixing drugs (Xanax and acid). For all I know that could lead to a serious interaction. I don't like this post at all.

Jerrrry 3y ago
>describing something as "overpowering, glorious, and delightful" dangerously misrepresent each person's own experience. It's nnDMT, not 5meoDMT. She will not hurt you, and it is literally so overpowering, it is not consciousnessly possible to retain one's ego mid trip (except when on stim+disso's :) ) >I also don't like your personal recommendation of DMT over mushrooms. You're not in a position to recommend anything based on your personal experience alone, especially when it relates to serious legal aspects of non-legal drugs. Mushrooms have a duration 50x as long as DMT, and it's not "my" personal experience, it is the collective advice of those that tread these waters before us, as many will agree. >Finally, I don't like your recommendation of mixing drugs (Xanax and acid). For all I know that could lead to a serious interaction. > For all I know >I know you obviously dont. Call dispatch and ask what is the procedure for someone tripping on lysergamides - or google it. A threshold, therapeutic, medically-incentivized safe dose of .5mg of any -zolam will categorically improve one's mood when administered in a safe and relaxing setting - which is the most paramount contributing factor to a positive experience with these substances. unless the setting is further provoked - many people get angry on -zolams, - in which case, the point is moot; you shouldn't be trying to probe the elves on "bad day" anyhow. No one is gonna rage-hit DMT and do anything, but rage-eating "organic natural mushrooms" is how idiots jump out of windows.
- _a_a_a_ 3y ago
  > It's nnDMT, not 5meoDMT. She will not hurt you (my emphasis). You irresponsible idiot. That's equivalent to saying it's harmless – no drug is, all have risks both mental and physical[1] (mental perhaps being the main one here, but the almost instant 'lights out' of DMT can cause physical injury). [1] and legal.
  - Jerrrry 3y ago
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    - _a_a_a_ 3y ago
      I cannot imagine your motivations for writing this. It's so offensively bad and inaccurate it defies my understanding. It's also dangerous enough to flag, which I have.
      - Jerrrry 3y ago
        If you do DMT three times in a day, you are already fucked in the head.
    - kortex 3y ago
      > LSD will fry your brain. Mushrooms will make you so open, your brain falls out. And DMT doesn't have that risk? Press X to doubt. I've done a tremendous amount of research on harm reduction, and all sources list a pretty similar risk profile for all classical psychedelics. Perhaps DMT administration is more self-limiting than other 5-HT2a class drugs, but it still very much can cause lasting negative psychological effects.
kortex 3y ago
I think you are missing an incredible amount of context. The main takeaways I got from GP's post are: - psychedelics can be and usually are an incredible life-changing experience for the better - psychedelic-naive users should start with the lowest-duration drugs until they know how their body and brain react to them - it's also a really good idea to have an "abort button" on hand (xanax/olams. Personally I'd recommend lorazepam, it's much safer and milder) if things start to go really south I understand the concern about polypharmacy, but Benzos and psychedelics don't really have adverse interactions. The whole point is that benzos can put the kabash on the anxiety component of a "bad trip" (they won't stop the trip but they will mitigate the potential for psychological injury). On the other hand, GP is saying things elsewhere in thread that feel... insufficiently substantiated, to be generous.
- Jerrrry 3y ago
  >On the other hand, GP is saying things elsewhere in thread that feel... insufficiently substantiated, to be generous. >insufficiently substantiated we are literally talking about effects that cannot, by definition, be articulated or substantiated usefully, and havent, because of their legalities. if you are looking for a single sentence to sum it up, I don't think I have done an injustice. LSD and Mushrooms are NOT as "safe" as culturally represented. I don't recommended anyone who is not in the soundest of minds to try DMT, without an experienced trip-sitter, and an abort -zolam. That is the sentiment I've expressed, to a bizarre amount of mis-inference for dubious moral grandstanding by those I am sure think that they, too, know everything.

Jerrrry 3y ago

>describing something as "overpowering, glorious, and delightful" dangerously misrepresent each person's own experience. It's nnDMT, not 5meoDMT. She will not hurt you, and it is literally so overpowering, it is not consciousnessly possible to retain one's ego mid trip (except when on stim+disso's :) ) >I also don't like your personal recommendation of DMT over mushrooms. You're not in a position to recommend anything based on your personal experience alone, especially when it relates to serious legal aspects of non-legal drugs. Mushrooms have a duration 50x as long as DMT, and it's not "my" personal experience, it is the collective advice of those that tread these waters before us, as many will agree. >Finally, I don't like your recommendation of mixing drugs (Xanax and acid). For all I know that could lead to a serious interaction. > For all I know >I know you obviously dont. Call dispatch and ask what is the procedure for someone tripping on lysergamides - or google it. A threshold, therapeutic, medically-incentivized safe dose of .5mg of any -zolam will categorically improve one's mood when administered in a safe and relaxing setting - which is the most paramount contributing factor to a positive experience with these substances. unless the setting is further provoked - many people get angry on -zolams, - in which case, the point is moot; you shouldn't be trying to probe the elves on "bad day" anyhow. No one is gonna rage-hit DMT and do anything, but rage-eating "organic natural mushrooms" is how idiots jump out of windows.

_a_a_a_ 3y ago
> It's nnDMT, not 5meoDMT. She will not hurt you (my emphasis). You irresponsible idiot. That's equivalent to saying it's harmless – no drug is, all have risks both mental and physical[1] (mental perhaps being the main one here, but the almost instant 'lights out' of DMT can cause physical injury). [1] and legal.
- Jerrrry 3y ago
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  - _a_a_a_ 3y ago
    I cannot imagine your motivations for writing this. It's so offensively bad and inaccurate it defies my understanding. It's also dangerous enough to flag, which I have.
    - Jerrrry 3y ago
      If you do DMT three times in a day, you are already fucked in the head.
  - kortex 3y ago
    > LSD will fry your brain. Mushrooms will make you so open, your brain falls out. And DMT doesn't have that risk? Press X to doubt. I've done a tremendous amount of research on harm reduction, and all sources list a pretty similar risk profile for all classical psychedelics. Perhaps DMT administration is more self-limiting than other 5-HT2a class drugs, but it still very much can cause lasting negative psychological effects.

kortex 3y ago

I think you are missing an incredible amount of context. The main takeaways I got from GP's post are: - psychedelics can be and usually are an incredible life-changing experience for the better - psychedelic-naive users should start with the lowest-duration drugs until they know how their body and brain react to them - it's also a really good idea to have an "abort button" on hand (xanax/olams. Personally I'd recommend lorazepam, it's much safer and milder) if things start to go really south I understand the concern about polypharmacy, but Benzos and psychedelics don't really have adverse interactions. The whole point is that benzos can put the kabash on the anxiety component of a "bad trip" (they won't stop the trip but they will mitigate the potential for psychological injury). On the other hand, GP is saying things elsewhere in thread that feel... insufficiently substantiated, to be generous.

Jerrrry 3y ago
>On the other hand, GP is saying things elsewhere in thread that feel... insufficiently substantiated, to be generous. >insufficiently substantiated we are literally talking about effects that cannot, by definition, be articulated or substantiated usefully, and havent, because of their legalities. if you are looking for a single sentence to sum it up, I don't think I have done an injustice. LSD and Mushrooms are NOT as "safe" as culturally represented. I don't recommended anyone who is not in the soundest of minds to try DMT, without an experienced trip-sitter, and an abort -zolam. That is the sentiment I've expressed, to a bizarre amount of mis-inference for dubious moral grandstanding by those I am sure think that they, too, know everything.