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The idea of a conversation about the most environmentally friendly way of igniting coal is quite amusing.
by arghwhat 3y ago
The idea of a conversation about the most environmentally friendly way of igniting coal is quite amusing.
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- noughtme 3y agoCharcoal and coal are quite different.
- rootusrootus 3y agoAt the same time, the most common form of 'charcoal' that an average person will use in their BBQ is made from both charcoal and coal, as well as other things.
- nielsbot 3y agostandard charcoal briquettes contain coal? i’m amazed to hear that. (I use lump charcoal myself which seems to give to food a better smoke flavor)
- mcpackieh 3y agoThey do often contain coal. Briquettes are weird. For smoking, you really want to be using wood (or charcoal and wood); charcoal has most of the volatiles burned off already, in principle leaving behind only carbon, so it isn't great for smoking things.
- jamiek88 3y agoNo regular brand of charcoal contains coal. Please link just one brand that does and I’ll withdraw my complaint but I’ve worked in the industry and very much doubt this.
- mcpackieh 3y ago> "Kingsford Charcoal is made from charred soft and hardwoods such as pine, spruce, hickory, oak and others depending on which regional manufacturing plant it comes from. That char is then mixed with ground coal and other ingredients to make a charcoal briquette. As of January 2016, Kingsford Charcoal contains the following ingredients:[7][8]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsford_%28charcoal%29#Manufacturing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsford_%28charcoal%29#Manuf... If this isn't true, they need to fire their entire PR team. This MDS says it contains anthracite: https://www.thecloroxcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/kingsfordcharcoalbriquets-sg-sds-en.pdf https://www.thecloroxcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/kingsfor...
- crazygringo 3y agoWow. Son of a gun you're right. Here's more info on why coal dust turns out to make an ideal binder for charcoal briquettes: https://mineralmilling.com/coal-dust-a-superior-choice-as-a-binder-for-charcoal-briquettes/ https://mineralmilling.com/coal-dust-a-superior-choice-as-a-... I had no idea. Key quote: "Research and patent literature show that when charcoal briquettes are produced using an organic binder such as anthracite, the binder is present in quantities of between approximately 2 and 8% by weight." And "coal, anthracite" is clearly listed as the third most common ingredient in the safety sheet for Kingsford Charcoal Briquettes, after charcoal and ashes.
- nielsbot 3y agoi should clarify i’m not smoking the meats, i’m just grilling. But I can definitely taste the difference between charcoal and briquettes. I guess for real smoking i’ll have to find wood.
- SoftTalker 3y ago> I can definitely taste the difference between charcoal and briquettes Yes I agree. I either use lump charcoal, or hardwood that I let burn down to embers. Briquettes impart an unpleasant flavor.
- coder543 3y agoYou’ve repeated this a few times, but I clicked on several charcoal options on Home Depot’s website, and they claimed to be made entirely of “100% natural hardwood”. Maybe some cheaper ones have added coal?
- rootusrootus 3y agoTake Kingsford, for example, probably the single most popular brand of briquettes at Home Depot. It does not say 100% natural hardwood, it says 100% natural ingredients, including wood. Coal is natural. And 15-40% of Kingsford briquettes [0]. [0] https://www.thecloroxcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/kingsfordcharcoalbriquets-sg-sds-en.pdf https://www.thecloroxcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/kingsfor...
- Valgrim 3y agoCharcoal is pyrolized biomass, not fossil fuel, which means it's approximately carbon-neutral. The problems with it are more associated with deforestation.
- Ekaros 3y agoIsn't there some sort of energy input in process? I wonder where that usually comes from in industrial production.
- rootusrootus 3y agoConventional consumer-grade charcoal briquettes used for backyard BBQ typically have some amount of coal in them.
- jamiek88 3y agoNo regular brand of charcoal contains coal. Please link just one brand that does and I’ll withdraw my complaint but I’ve worked in the industry and very much doubt this.
- a1369209993 3y ago"Charcoal" literally means "coal made by charring [implicitly: wood]". I assume you (and probably rootusrootus) mean "No regular brand of charcoal contains [fossil] coal." (eg, lignite, bitumite, or anthracite). (I don't know what they're on about either; presumably for sufficiently historical values of "conventional" barbecue coal was supplied from the same mines as train / steam engine / home heating coal, but that isn't much of a thing anymore.)
- rootusrootus 3y agoAnthracite coal, 15-40% https://www.thecloroxcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/kingsfordcharcoalbriquets-sg-sds-en.pdf https://www.thecloroxcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/kingsfor...
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