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In this case, it's about a "inoperable tumor" so I'm guessing a human hand wouldn't be able to do it at all. That's what makes this particular case more amazing

In this case, it's about a "inoperable tumor" so I'm guessing a human hand wouldn't be able to do it at all. That's what makes this particular case more amazing.

vorticalbox 3y ago
The article states it would have required breaking the jaw in two. So it was doable but as the article states "no one was lining up"
- robotresearcher 3y ago
  But they didn’t have to line up to do it that way, because the robot is widely available these days.
  - vorticalbox 3y ago
    Yeah in this case I think it's a bit of creative titling. It's "inoperable" in the sense "no one wanted to do it by hand"
CuriousCosmic 3y ago
Well only if you don't consider the surgeon who operated the davinci robot. Not to diminish this case at all but people kinda misinterpret how surgical robots operate. They are less like CNC robots where you program in a control path before hand and the robot follows it. Rather they are like a set of "prosthetic" tools that allow you to stabilize your movements and shrink them down to extremely small motions beyond the precision human hands are capable of. It still takes an extremely skilled human surgeon at the controls at all points of the surgery to make this possible, these are just tools that give those surgeons more fidelity and stability in their motions. No less amazing in the slightest but make no mistake that this surgery was performed by a human, just with a far more advanced kit of scalpels and forceps.
- dv_dt 3y ago
  I think there are also cnc type robots in surgery but doing more limited tasks - you see them in some orthopedic surgeries where they cut precision sockets to join prosthetic parts.
- capableweb 3y ago
  > Well only if you don't consider the surgeon who operated the davinci robot. No, even if you consider the surgeon. The article talks about that the robot is able to do maneuvers that a human hand cannot, drastically simplifying the surgery. I'm well aware that the robot is controlled by a human, and I don't think anything in my comment indicates I wasn't.

In this case, it's about a "inoperable tumor" so I'm guessing a human hand wouldn't be able to do it at all. That's what makes this particular case more amazing.

vorticalbox 3y ago

The article states it would have required breaking the jaw in two. So it was doable but as the article states "no one was lining up"

robotresearcher 3y ago
But they didn’t have to line up to do it that way, because the robot is widely available these days.
- vorticalbox 3y ago
  Yeah in this case I think it's a bit of creative titling. It's "inoperable" in the sense "no one wanted to do it by hand"

CuriousCosmic 3y ago

Well only if you don't consider the surgeon who operated the davinci robot. Not to diminish this case at all but people kinda misinterpret how surgical robots operate. They are less like CNC robots where you program in a control path before hand and the robot follows it. Rather they are like a set of "prosthetic" tools that allow you to stabilize your movements and shrink them down to extremely small motions beyond the precision human hands are capable of. It still takes an extremely skilled human surgeon at the controls at all points of the surgery to make this possible, these are just tools that give those surgeons more fidelity and stability in their motions. No less amazing in the slightest but make no mistake that this surgery was performed by a human, just with a far more advanced kit of scalpels and forceps.

dv_dt 3y ago
I think there are also cnc type robots in surgery but doing more limited tasks - you see them in some orthopedic surgeries where they cut precision sockets to join prosthetic parts.
capableweb 3y ago
> Well only if you don't consider the surgeon who operated the davinci robot. No, even if you consider the surgeon. The article talks about that the robot is able to do maneuvers that a human hand cannot, drastically simplifying the surgery. I'm well aware that the robot is controlled by a human, and I don't think anything in my comment indicates I wasn't.