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Corp robotics aside - any of this kind of tech needs to 100% have the ability to get out of the way. By robotic control. Bu human control. Or by being pushed.

Corp robotics aside - any of this kind of tech needs to 100% have the ability to get out of the way. By robotic control. Bu human control. Or by being pushed. 90 seconds before ambulance moves is not long at all. Quite fast actually. I’ve seen it be longer for things with an MOI that requires ambulance to landing zone for helicopter transport. With helis waiting. The people in this thread simping for the tech while armchair qb’ing the first responders really sadden me. I have, personally, smashed windows, popped cars into neutral, and pushed them out of the way. It happens. That’s what insurance is for. This new tech needs to prioritize getting the heck out of the way - for any and all emergency vehicles. Even in odd places, like when we have to drive on the wrong side of the road, or on a lawn, etc.

joshribakoff 3y ago
The only way this will happen (anytime soon) is if they put the safety drivers back in but they will never do that willingly because they have worked for a decade and invested billions to get to this point and it would be difficult to capitulate. There is simply no way to remotely assist reliably in the same way as being physically present (no network has 0 latency and 100% reliability). The AI likely cannot drive “perfectly” no matter how good it gets and neither can humans, but for the foreseeable future the AI will continue making entirely different type of mistakes than humans do.
- flandish 3y ago
  For sure. Us FD (and some police) have what we call “knox box keys” - knox is a brand. They’re locked in the apparatus, and with a pin code or radio signal I can get them unlocked and then from there unlock a little box on a building. That contains the buildings master keys. Anyway - if apparatus contained corporate keys (fobs, fido, physical, whatever) that allow a FD member to drive the car - I can 100% see that being part of a scene SOP/G. Tell the probie “get the key, move that AV out of the way.” Or bull bars on my tanker will make it happen..
  - ebalit 3y ago
    Great insights. It should be the top comment IMO. That's the kind of field-tested perspectives that give HN its value.

joshribakoff 3y ago

The only way this will happen (anytime soon) is if they put the safety drivers back in but they will never do that willingly because they have worked for a decade and invested billions to get to this point and it would be difficult to capitulate. There is simply no way to remotely assist reliably in the same way as being physically present (no network has 0 latency and 100% reliability). The AI likely cannot drive “perfectly” no matter how good it gets and neither can humans, but for the foreseeable future the AI will continue making entirely different type of mistakes than humans do.

flandish 3y ago
For sure. Us FD (and some police) have what we call “knox box keys” - knox is a brand. They’re locked in the apparatus, and with a pin code or radio signal I can get them unlocked and then from there unlock a little box on a building. That contains the buildings master keys. Anyway - if apparatus contained corporate keys (fobs, fido, physical, whatever) that allow a FD member to drive the car - I can 100% see that being part of a scene SOP/G. Tell the probie “get the key, move that AV out of the way.” Or bull bars on my tanker will make it happen..
- ebalit 3y ago
  Great insights. It should be the top comment IMO. That's the kind of field-tested perspectives that give HN its value.