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Anecdote: I'm not far from Paris, I was walking around a corner, dude on the footpath on a escooter runs right into me, luckily I am 188cm/100 kilos and he pret
by dekken_ 3y ago
Anecdote: I'm not far from Paris, I was walking around a corner, dude on the footpath on a escooter runs right into me, luckily I am 188cm/100 kilos and he pretty much bounced off me, but a kid might have been less fortunate.
Paris is nice to cycle, cars can't typically go fast enough to be too much of a hinderance, better for bikes will be good tho, the bike lanes need some work
- benj111 3y agoSurvivorship bias? If it were a car you wouldn't be around to tell the tale. Surely the issue is the scooter on the pavement, not the fact that scooters are allowed.
- d-trieu 3y agoI'm sure they would've died if they got run over by a train or a plane too, but unlike either of these scooters are actually common on pavement.
- benj111 3y agoThus the second paragraph
- dekken_ 3y ago> not the fact that scooters are allowed. If you read my comment, you will notice I didn't say anything about this.
- brigadier132 3y agoFunny you bring up cycling. In sf its the bikes when im walking that seem to be the most dangerous. The scooters dont go fast enough
- sshine 3y agoBicycles are dangerous in the US because there isn’t a bicycling culture: The bicyclists (that I’ve seen) treat it as a sport, and the cars don’t navigate around them as if the bicyclists are suicidal, which is the safe assumption to make when you come from a bike-heavy European capital.
- brigadier132 3y agoI can't tell you why honestly. I just know that my near misses have always been with bicycles. For some reason people on bikes think it's acceptable to not slow down when a pedestrian is crossing the street and it's acceptable to just blast past them within a half inch of hitting them.
- LucasBrandt 3y agoI can only find data up to 2021, but in urban environments in France that year, 165 pedestrians were killed in crashes involving a passenger vehicle. 2 were killed in crashes involving "Personal Mobility Devices (motorized)". Source on page 79 - https://www.onisr.securite-routiere.gouv.fr/sites/default/files/2023-01/2021%20Road%20Safety%20Annual%20Report%20version%2007%20decembre_v2.pdf https://www.onisr.securite-routiere.gouv.fr/sites/default/fi... (Meanwhile, 190 pedestrians were killed in just my state of Illinois in 2022)