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Why not?

by dbish 3y ago

Why not?

crazygringo 3y ago
I mean, why don't we have GAI? I don't know how to describe it except that performing a role in a fully believable way is akin to writing an engaging believable novel, which AI can't do, and is nowhere near doing, either. If you try taking a beginner's acting class at an acting studio in e.g. LA or NY, you'll quickly see how difficult and artistic good screen acting is. How hard it is to perform lines in a way that seems like real life, as opposed to seeming like bad acting (melodramatic exclaiming of lines). Of course, a lot of people don't understand just how difficult and skilled screen acting is, because the entire point is that you're not supposed to notice acting at all. You're supposed to be fooled into thinking these are somehow real characters.
- dbish 3y ago
  Eh, I think anything that we have a lot of data on (ex: recorded acting) will and can be replicated in the very near future. Sure, you will have the occasional Oscar worthy actor that is some level of creativity that doesn’t work, but vast majority of acting is not finding new ways to show something in a script, the creativity came from the writing and directing choices. Art was also thought to require human creativity until recently. We’re not going to produce a new paradigm of art or Picasso level impact, but the median artist can be replaced today in most ways imho.
  - crazygringo 3y ago
    > but vast majority of acting is not finding new ways to show something in a script, the creativity came from the writing and directing choices. I'm sorry, but you have clearly never worked in film and television, and certainly never in casting. Because your impression of acting is simply wrong. Casting offices will audition literally hundreds of actors to find the one who can bring the right unique take to the role, that no other actor can. There are TV shows and plays that simply don't get made because they can't find an actor who can play the part with the needed charm and magnetism for the specific role. I'm not talking Oscars, I'm talking bread-and-butter network comedies and procedurals. People watch shows and movies for the story/script, but they also watch them for the unique spark and charisma that the actors bring just as much. AI is not replicating that in the "very near future", not even close.
    - dbish 3y ago
      Given that some actors effectively play the same character every movie or show they’re in (ex: the rock) and people still seem to mostly like them, why couldn’t you capture an actor’s “spark” (mannerisms) once and replay in different settings forever? What specifically can’t be simulated?

Why not?

by dbish 3y ago

Why not?

I mean, why don't we have GAI? I don't know how to describe it except that performing a role in a fully believable way is akin to writing an engaging believable novel, which AI can't do, and is nowhere near doing, either. If you try taking a beginner's acting class at an acting studio in e.g. LA or NY, you'll quickly see how difficult and artistic good screen acting is. How hard it is to perform lines in a way that seems like real life, as opposed to seeming like bad acting (melodramatic exclaiming of lines). Of course, a lot of people don't understand just how difficult and skilled screen acting is, because the entire point is that you're not supposed to notice acting at all. You're supposed to be fooled into thinking these are somehow real characters.

dbish 3y ago
Eh, I think anything that we have a lot of data on (ex: recorded acting) will and can be replicated in the very near future. Sure, you will have the occasional Oscar worthy actor that is some level of creativity that doesn’t work, but vast majority of acting is not finding new ways to show something in a script, the creativity came from the writing and directing choices. Art was also thought to require human creativity until recently. We’re not going to produce a new paradigm of art or Picasso level impact, but the median artist can be replaced today in most ways imho.
- crazygringo 3y ago
  > but vast majority of acting is not finding new ways to show something in a script, the creativity came from the writing and directing choices. I'm sorry, but you have clearly never worked in film and television, and certainly never in casting. Because your impression of acting is simply wrong. Casting offices will audition literally hundreds of actors to find the one who can bring the right unique take to the role, that no other actor can. There are TV shows and plays that simply don't get made because they can't find an actor who can play the part with the needed charm and magnetism for the specific role. I'm not talking Oscars, I'm talking bread-and-butter network comedies and procedurals. People watch shows and movies for the story/script, but they also watch them for the unique spark and charisma that the actors bring just as much. AI is not replicating that in the "very near future", not even close.
  - dbish 3y ago
    Given that some actors effectively play the same character every movie or show they’re in (ex: the rock) and people still seem to mostly like them, why couldn’t you capture an actor’s “spark” (mannerisms) once and replay in different settings forever? What specifically can’t be simulated?