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As an Android user, I do not want the TouchWiz overlay. I want the pure, unadulterated ICS UI goodness. Why doesn't Samsung "get it"? (Don't answer that).
by wyclif 15y ago
As an Android user, I do not want the TouchWiz overlay. I want the pure, unadulterated ICS UI goodness. Why doesn't Samsung "get it"? (Don't answer that).
- huggyface 15y agoYou're a hacker purist. Most consumers are not. Many actually like the features that Touchwiz brings. It's actually interesting in that "pure, unadulterated" Android has very heavily borrowed from Sense UI, TouchWiz, and Motoblur. Those custom skins were what really helped move the platform forward.
- commandar 15y agoI don't know. As somebody that was a day-one G1 customer, I think the influence of Mattias Duarte coming on board has had far more impact on the platform than any of these OEM skins. You can see the influence of Duarte's previous work at Palm all over ICS, far more so than any of the custom skins. What I have certainly seen is manufacturers breaking baked-in functionality on Android trying to differentiate themselves. Moto managed to break both manual Exchange configuration and Facebook sync on my Droid 4, for example. It's not like those are obscure functions nobody uses.
- estel 15y agoI'm not sure in which update you're referring to Facebook sync being "broken", but this was purposefully removed from stock by Google in Android 2.3.3.
- fpgeek 15y agoIn fact, that argument is laid out in more detail here: http://androidandme.com/2012/02/news/why-androids-custom-uis-are-important-to-the-future-of-the-platform/ http://androidandme.com/2012/02/news/why-androids-custom-uis...
- Steko 15y agoThere was recent convincing discussion that to the vast majority of the 20+ million(?) people who own the phone have no idea what ICS is and would be shocked if Samsung put out an update that completely changed the UX.
- parfe 15y agoYou mean the 2 line submission pointing to Gruber on daring fireball where he stated, without any citations at all, that a UI update would freak people out and cause unspecified issues? Despite the fact that multiple platforms get UI updates? Might as well tag "So buy an Iphone" to the bottom of any Gruber post referencing android (Substitute Ipad if the post relates to tablets)
- Steko 15y agoWell at least he made an argument, all you have is an ad hominem attack on him. And he was defending Samsung's decision so your bias attack goes nowhere. So I guess he wins by default? Yeah let's go with that.
- skeletonjelly 15y agoLuckily for you, you can choose. Just like I did. Sure CM9 is not 100% there but it's pretty, functional and I love it.
- StavrosK 15y agoWhere do you get it from? A short search has turned up nothing.
- skeletonjelly 15y agohttp://www.theandroidsoul.com/cm9-galaxy-s2/ http://www.theandroidsoul.com/cm9-galaxy-s2/ It's a fairly long procedure, but it's a nice result in the end. http://imgur.com/eMPHU http://imgur.com/eMPHU
- StavrosK 15y agoAh, for the Galaxy S2. I have a Desire HD (Inspire) and I already installed ICS a while ago with the IceColdSandwich ROM. I was wondering if CM9 was available for it, but it doesn't seem to be.
- inconditus 15y agoCM9 stands for Cyanogenmod 9.
- fpgeek 15y agoI'm genuinely curious, how is the ICS TouchWiz overlay a problem for you in practice? Pre-ICS, I'll agree that the custom manufacturer widgets could create issues (performance, app consistency, etc.). However, starting with ICS, manufacturers will have to include the stock widgets as well and apps are likely to select them (to avoid these kinds of issues). It also isn't hard to replace the TouchWiz launcher with an AOSP-based one (e.g. Apex, Nova, Trebuchet). After that, what is left and how important is it?
- thought_alarm 15y agoSamsung has recently become the largest smartphone manufacturer in the world, yet you think they don't "get it"? Your carrier decides which phones they will carry, and what software those phones will include and exclude. Samsung's job is to do whatever the carriers want. The carriers in return give Samsung support and precious shelf space. Your carrier also wants you to blame Samsung and not them for all the things that suck about your phone. So well done.
- wyclif 15y agoI know this. That was what my "don't answer that" was about. Sorry to be cryptic, but I'm fully aware of the politics and power the carriers exert on the US smartphone market. I don't like it, but I understand it.
- loverobots 15y agoYou do, but Samsung is a multi-billion corp and wants YOU to know that they exist...by making something of their own.
- batiudrami 15y agoThey do get it. They want you to feel an attachment to Samsung devices, not to Android devices. They want customer's to think 'well, I already know how to use a Galaxy, so I'll get the newest one of those', rather than buying an HTC because it's the newest Android. Samsung have been some of the best in helping get custom ROMs going on their devices, and if you want stock Android, it'll always be available to you that way.
- donniezazen 15y agoTouchwiz has a very poor UI and looks. Sense is far superior to Touchwiz.